What if you could get behind it and box it’s ears? I’m betting the pain would put him down . . .
Another video showing how strong chimps are:
Does anyone remember a story about an early 20th century (I think) carnival/fair that employed a chimp/orangutan? Whoever could stay in the ring against it for a few minutes would win money, but all the human contenders were easily bested by the chimp/orangutan.
Slightly OT: how do chimps (or other apes) fare against apex carnivores, e.g. big cats, hyenas etc.?
Chimps, plural. Neither of which was “his” chimp, ironically. I think he would’ve had a bad day whether he aggressively pounded them or not, though it hardly could have ended worse for him. As the excerpt notes, he got bear hugged by one, which then started to eat his face, while the other flanking chimp started chewing on his hands. With his wife unable to get away, no wonder he tried to stand and fight, rather than run. Totally agree with your larger point that a chimp isn’t a terminator, and will bleed and die just fine given the right injuries. IMHO it’s just that a bare armed human’s in a poor position to inflict those injuries.
What a horrible, though incredibly interesting, story linked by BlackKnight. The story is just completely full of fail all around. Accidentally letting two chimps lose while your guests are busy with a third? Grabbing a pistol (good) then having to run back to the house because it’s loaded with the wrong damn thing? I suppose St. James should be grateful that he didn’t get shot by his rescuer…
And to go through all that agony—the face of St. James in the Esquire article will haunt me for awhile—then at the end have another animal sanctuary “lose” their chimp with the most transparent excuse I’ve read since Little Billy was told that Fido the dog went off to a farm where he’d play with animals all day…just absolutely heartrending. Though in the end I agree with Anaamika’s observation that you’ve got to be completely insane to have one of these as a pet.
Thought the OP ruled out escape by running or using a firearm, either of which would be vastly preferable to throwing down with Bubbles. Reading hdc_bst’s point, I guess they’re right. It’s just hard to visualize at first the raw strength necessary for the chimp to reach behind itself, grab one of the arms applying the choke, and rip it off. Sure looks like a chimp could do it though.
For Fotheringay-Phipps, it looks like leopards and lions do just fine when attacking chimps. Considering the strength, speed, and weapons a leopard can bring to the fight, it isn’t that surprising.
I think I saw her on Fraggle Rock.
Adorably!
Seriously though, a full-grown tiger is like 400 lbs of asskickery and a chimp is like 140 lbs.
You don’t have to generate as much power. You’re transmitting ALL of the power of 2 fists. If you’re ever riveted something you’d understand. A block is placed on one side to produce enough mass so that the rivet doesn’t bounce with each hammer blow. In this case you’re replacing the block with another hammer.
From a boxing standpoint, it leaves you vulnerable to a punch from your opponent.
Well then it would also leave you vulnerable to a chimp attack.
My statement was directed at your statement “trying to sink your weight into a blow helps the blow it is still a waste of kinetic energy if the head can move.” If this were true, there wouldn’t be any knockouts in boxing when in fact they are common. And remember they are wearing big padded gloves. Also fists do not have any inherent “power” in them. The power comes from the kinetic energy. The limited arm movement constrained by punching with both hands at the same time doesn’t allow the fists to gain enough speed or kinetic energy to do the damage you are suggesting. Picture trying your rivet experiment by holding the mass with one hand and a hammer in the other and I think you’ll see what I’m saying.
You can’t get your mass into a two-handed strike. That means that when you apply the formula F=ma, that your m goes down by 95% so your F goes down by 95%. The power transmission effect is so minor that is swamped by the m effect.
To use a car analogy, it’s the difference between getting hit by a car when you’re in an open parking lot (the single punch example) versus getting hit by an opening car door when you’re standing against a wall (the two-handed example).
Just out of curiosity, are you the guy who thinks it takes 4lbs of pressure to break a knee joint?
When I lived overseas as a foreign service brat in Africa in the 60’s I thought our cook was shitting me with tall tales when he told me you had to be careful when walking in the jungle or the chimps would attack you and chew off your fingers and rip off your nuts.
Little did I know.
I for one welcome our new Chimpanzee overlords.
This is completely contrary to how a knockout occurs with human beings, where did you even hear of this double strike nonsense? There is no way to send two punches at the same time with even the strength of one fist because of the way the human body is setup. A double hammerfist is a complete novelty in MMA and has never once knocked anyone out.
The knockout occurs because the brain REBOUNDS against the part of the skull in the direction the strike came from, keeping the brain in place and not allowing it to slosh around is the LAST way to cause a knockout, the best way to break your hands on an ineffective kung fu looking strike.
Using the car analogy it’s the difference between hitting a car in the rear and driving it forward and hitting a car head on. 2 cars at 30 mph transmit all of the energy of a 60 mph car hitting a wall. I know how much damage a car does when it strikes a parked car at 60 mph. Been there, done that. If not for a damaged radiator, I could have driven the car away. The only reason the radiator was damaged is because the bumper of the other car went over the top of mine. While I had my seat belt on the other driver did not. We both walked away completely unscathed.
I don’t know about knee joints but I broke someone’s leg in 3 places in a Judo tournament with a poorly executed leg sweep. that was back when I was in grade school. Didn’t even realize I’d hurt him until he dropped to the floor.
And this is why analogies don’t always work. You’re wrong here, Magiver. Let it go.
You don’t understand the laws of physics. 100 % transmittal of energy (twice) versus having the energy of a single blow decelerated with the motion of the head. The car analogy is exactly what would happen.
Lol. No. You’re wrong. Let it go.
Watch this.
And then watch this.
There’s a reason one produced a devastating knockout and one was called “the old Three Stooges move.”
Magiver, you’re making the mistake of thinking that a punch’s power comes from the arms. Watch this. The double-punch you’re talking about cancels out the leverage that allows you to generate enough force to knock someone out. Although you’ve already been told this, maybe it’ll click this time.
I misread it as enraged shrimp. I would much rather take on an enraged shrimp, especially if armed with garlic, lemon and butter.
I’ve worked with animals all my life and have never ever wanted to work with primates. Aside from the strength thing, knowing all the nasty zoonotic diseases they carry did not endear them to me.
The leverage generated behind a single punch is dissipated by the head as it moves away. It is simple physics which is not up for debate.
It is the difference between striking a nail suspended from a string with a 20 lb sledge hammer and striking a nail into wood with a small hammer. The small hammer will deform the head of the nail with the slightest blow. All the kinetic energy is transmitted.
You can demonstrate it on yourself quite easily. lightly strike your jaw with one hand/knuckle (not even the effort put into a hard applause clap) and repeat with the same force using both hands. Consider how many times you can multiple the energy of that blow. It takes nothing to break both sides of the jaw.
Well then. Good day to you, sir.