You should take it as the result of paying attention to history.
Argue against it as you may, there will still be those who believe that paying attention to history is a good thing.
You should take it as the result of paying attention to history.
Argue against it as you may, there will still be those who believe that paying attention to history is a good thing.
Demanding a hand count is saying that they did not and do not trust the way the votes were counted in their county due to the thoughts that the electronic votes were tampered with. Yet they have no proof and the news afterwards of other recounts have also proven useless.
The system works for the winner, right? If Hillary had of won these same people would’ve not even have been heard from.
All signs point to just another electoral college voting day, ho hum:
That’s why I think Clinton should consider asking her electors to vote “President: John McCain; Vice President: Hillary Clinton.”
The GOP electors just aren’t going to vote for a Democrat–not even those with misgivings about Trump. And as we know, they are not all devoted Trump fans.
Give them a moderate, non-extremist Republican to vote for–and enough of them might do it. It would take only 38 of them, IF all the Democratic electors voted for the same moderate Republican.
(Wouldn’t have to be McCain. I’m not a fan of his views or policies but they would be a far sight better for the nation and the world than Trump’s would be. McCain is a long-time Republican and a war hero and has stood up to Trump. That, and Hillary’s recommendation, might be enough to persuade the Democratic electors.)
I think you’re kidding yourself if you think HRC could get all 232 Dem electors to vote for John McCain. She can’t even get them all to vote for her.
That doesn’t make sense. If some Democratic electors are disdainful of Clinton, as you claim, then wouldn’t they jump at the chance to vote for someone else for President?
You seem to be attempting to paint Democratic electors as being erratic or unpredictable. Have you any evidence supporting such a claim?
But I really wasn’t trying to paint ALL Dem electors as erratic. I’m sure many of them are fairly run-of-the-mill Dems, and as run-of-the-mill Dems, they probably find the idea of voting for a Republican, even one as moderate as John McCain, to be personally distasteful. It wouldn’t surprise me if HRC could convince the majority of her electors to back McCain, but we’re talking about 232 died-in-the-wool, true-blue Dems. I don’t tink ALL of them would do it.
They might well prefer to vote for somebody else for President, but that somebody wouldn’t be for John McCain.
“Hey, Democratic electors. Hillary here. Look, I know that even though you’re pledged to me, some of you don’t feel great about it. You worry I’m not progressive enough. You worry I have ties to big business. So I have an idea. How about instead of voting for me, you vote for right wing Republican Senator John McCain. You know, the guy we all mobilized against back in 2008, revealing how terrible he was? That guy. Look. Just consider it. Anyway, I have to go. I’ll email you.”
Suppose that a sizable number of Trump electors defect - but not enough to prevent Trump from being president. Would that send a message to Trump in any way, or would he preside the same way with 270 EVs as he would with 306 EVs?
I doubt it would make a difference, but it’s not going to happen, and even if it did, there’d be no way of knowing if that were him governing more moderately, or if we would’ve been just as moderate / extreme with 306 electoral votes.
I predict Trump gets 305 electoral college votes.
because they wanted these people to pay for the recount …
Friday, Saturday, Sunday … Just three (3) more days till the electoral college makes their votes known to the governor in each state.
I’ll be glad when this part of the election is over and we can get on to more important things.
Don’t we all have jobs to go to?
Imagine how intense the lobbying would be if the result from Election Night had been 270-268 either way. There’d be furious phone calling and mailing 24/7.
Given the way the Dems have treated the electors this year, I hope that I live to see a narrow Dem election-night win overturned by the electoral college one day. It would be sweet, sweet justice.
Point being missed in both posts: The ‘have Hillary ask her electors to vote for a moderate Republican for President’ idea is not about Democratic electors wanting a moderate Republican for President. It’s about wanting to avoid the consequences of handing Presidential power to an unstable man-baby who’s desperate for a Russian dictator’s approval.
I know. Democrats are all about trying to deny reality these days.
So you’re saying that the Electoral College votes have already occurred?
I’m saying it’s fantasy-land quackery to think anything but “President Trump” will be the result.
That would’ve been something else, uh? Social media would’ve exploded, riots would’ve erupted, oh wait a minute they did with people that didn’t even vote saying, Trump’s not our president"
I suspect the Russian hacking news would’ve come out a lot sooner. Funny thing about all of this hacking news influencing the election coming out three days before the electors vote, plus I think a lot of people think the hacking part was about voting booths and machines and not just the DNC, which all it has been so far.
The word hacking is so powerful … details we need details not rumors.
That’s certain? You seem awfully worried about it.
It’s as close to certain as I’ve been about anything in a long time. I’m curious though, what gives you the impression I’m “awfully worried about it”?