Count down to December 19th ... Electorial College voting day

Sherrerd, don’t worry though, you’re not alone in these hopes and dreams. CNN published this opinion piece by Scott Piro:

Personally I think it’s a pretty shitty thing to do, harassing the electors that for the past 100+ years have been nothing but a symbolic gesture, but whatever, I’m not the least bit worried it’ll succeed.

I have posted quite a few times that I think Clinton should urge her own electors to vote for a moderate Republican–because I am guessing that getting 38 GOP electors to vote for a Republican other than Trump is far more likely to happen than would be getting 38 GOP electors to vote for Clinton. (It’s particularly likely to happen if those GOP electors have reasonable assurance that the moderate Republican in question will be getting 232 votes (from the Democrats).)

The GOP electors are not all Trump fans. But they are all Republicans.

In any case, I would suspect that the electors of all parties are able to withstand editorials, blogs, Tweets, and even personal contacts asking them to vote in particular ways. They don’t need you to protect them. They volunteered for this engagement with public life.

Yes, they volunteered for it, but that was probably before they knew that there public service would be accompanied by death threats.

Death threats are not acceptable. They are not acceptable when made by Trump’s fans, nor are they acceptable when made by his opponents.

I’m delighted we agree on this. Perhaps there’s hope for a return to civil society yet.

You are probably right - What a shame

Oh please gimme a break - the guy that held openly racist views against Latinos, immigrants and Muslims, freaking dog whistle city during his rallies won. His base consisted of the most deplorable scum in the face of our country, and you wonder why people here are still hoping for a miracle? Google videos and images of some of the “fine folk” that were his strongest cheerleaders…

You have become so ingrained in your “haha my party won” mindset that you have become completely blinded to a what a giant shitbag just got elected.

Yeah, it’s silly to hope for this, but when things are this bad, it’s what decent people do.

On our way to Monday December 19th (noticed this oddity)

December 19, 1998
President Clinton impeached

So all that talk about reality-based worldviews goes out the window when you lose an election? Now it’s suddenly ok to stick your head in the sand and pretend the real world isn’t the real world?

The reality is that the electors may choose to exercise their constitutional right to vote as they see fit.

Then again, they may not. But if we are talking about facing reality, why not partake of the facts about what’s possible, instead of clinging to your desperate wishes about what’s possible?

You described Trump’s views as “openly racist.”

So how would you describe an actual open racist, someone who came along and said, “I am asking for your vote so we can transform the United States into a country by and for white Anglo-Saxons. Black people will be sent back to Africa. All the mud people will be exiled. Jews will be deported, too, no matter the color of their skin.”

That’s also an open racist, yes? Would you call him extra-open, or something?

Enforced borders is not racism. If it is, practically every country in the world is “racist.”

Beyond that mundane observation, do you think it’s possible to make any predictions about what’s likely to occur on Monday? Or are we just going to have to wait and be surprised because ‘anything’s possible’? This isn’t a tricky one like the November election. It’s practically a ‘gimme’ in the prediction business.

Enforcing the borders based on religion is the definition of bigotry.

This is the big game coming up tomorrow. uh?

The Electoral College Bowl

GOP vs DNC the score so far is GOP 306 to DNC 232

The GOP could go all the way unless they fumble the ball causing the game to go into overtime. All replays will be reviewed by the US Congress and the Senate.

This game could last till January 20th making it the best Super Bowl in American history. :slight_smile:

Here’s SNL’s Love Actually/Electoral College spoof: Watch Hillary Clinton Meet Love Actually in S.N.L. Christmas Sketch | Vanity Fair

I haven’t seen the movie, but I still laughed my ass off. Very good. Very, very good!

Thank you.
Humor is a nice choice away from people screaming and trying to get in peoples faces on this topic and in this thread.

None of us are electors.

Tomorrow will come, as will the day after… and no matter what happens, all sides will roll with it.
Happy Holidays!

Speaking of that magazine (and site): in the opening sketch, while the grown-ups (Putin and his pal Rex Tillerson) are figuring out where they’ll drill first after the US sanctions are lifted, little Donald’s main concern was being allowed to “destroy Vanity Fair.”

The movie’s worth a look - British romantic schmaltziness and jokes with a Christmas backdrop - and will make the SNL skit all the funnier for you.