Not exactly: it was unseemly to talk about banned members.
I seem to recall you, in the past, bitterly attacking people who questioned Lynn’s judgment in exactly the way that people are questioning her judgment now. Why is it that you don’t attack Shodan et al?
I’ll talk shit de mortuis if there’s nil bonum to be said. Especially when people are second-guessing the termination.
If folks wanna let county rest in peace, then let’s quit talking about him. But I’m not going to avoid calling him an obnoxious jerk when that’s at the very heart of the reason for his banning and when other folks are trying to twist his banning into some sort of wacky liberal gay conspiracy.
Ha, you’re hilarious. It’s good to see that county’s spirit lives on in you. He’d be so proud.
Liberal, maybe you’re right, but I don’t care as much about being unseemly as I used to. Also, watching Lynn be pilloried for such ridiculous reasons and county defended for such specious ones got under my skin. Eh, he’s gone, ding dong, move on.
Re-read the thread Jeff. County may have been an ass in the thread, but no more so in scope and content than several other participants, including Rubystreak in her vituperative responses to those who disagreed with her. To point at county and say he was asking for it any more than the other poo flingers in that scrum is (IMO) being a bit overly selective about who deserved a mod’s DBAJ warning and who did not.
Yeah, you’d think that when the boards were going pay-to-play the mods would have clarified the “Don’t be a jerk” rule, consdering how many people asked for just that thing.
So…now being an asshole in the Pit will get you banned? Or only when a Mod is looking for an excuse to ban you?
I never liked county, but this really is bullshit.
Too bad the Mods don’t even pretend to be accountable for their actions.
what a bad idea. You’ll just get people that say “Oh it says in the rule she couldn’t call someone a cock biting asshole. All he said was cock biting jerk so clearly he shouldn’t have been banned!” We already get enough annoying threads that look at every aspect of a banned member and declare it unfair.
being an asshole will get you warned anywhere on the board. Isn’t that pretty obvious? Being and asshole after you’ve been warned gets you banned. Not hard to figure out IMO.
Yeah because it’s not like two different mods in this thread told the story of what happened and offered perfectly reasonable explanations. :rolleyes:
Really how many more warnings do you think county had coming before he deserved a banning? 2? 3? 10? It’s not hard to avoid warnings on this board I’ve noticed. Even the thinnest veil of civility protects you like a suit if armor. If you can’t maintain that you should get booted.
I know. I can’t believe the Mods promised us they would clarify that rule prior to people having to pay to subscribe, and then they went back on their word like that!
And I’ll give you three guesses why I can’t believe that.
If county was too stupid to realize that the PTB were going to keep the “don’t be a jerk” rule subjective, then that’s nobody’s problem but his own. However, I think he was smart enough to realize it; he was just too mean to respect it.
Do you recall if what was said was as mild as what county got whacked for? I could see if someone posted really hateful racist stuff for example, even in the pit, would get them banned. But IMHO county’s post isn’t anywhere near worth banning, no matter what he said before.
Like I said before, it isn’t even a straw, and the camel’s back should have stayed intact. If he was such a bad guy, then wait until he really fucks up. And if he doesn’t fuck up, all the better; he learned his lesson.
And if what he did before was so bad, ban him for that. No need to wait and ban someone over something so ridiculously mild as that post.
No, but saying “quit whining, minorities suffer” shows total hostility to any minority that is suffering. As if daring to speak out against your suffering is somehow “whining”
So county’s gone. I really do disagree with the circumstances in this particular case - but as a general rule, if you’ve been specifically warned about your conduct here you need to learn to cool it; that’s it.
But hey, aren’t there those who’ve been warned repeatedly, yet continue to … hmm let me think of an example … referring to people against the War as “Saddamites”? in Great Debates?
Actually, that’s a bad example. That individual definitely knows the rules of conduct (being an ex-moderator and all).
Let’s take a look at two high-profile examples, december and Collounsbury.
Collounsbury was a raging asshole, and in his own inimitable way blew the definition of “jerk” into a whole new dimension. Whether you found his input valuable or not (I, personally, did) shouldn’t have given him a pass on the “jerk” rule. However, he did get a pass, didn’t he?
december, love him or hate him, was a fucking troll. Whether or not people came out and actually said it, it was true. He was also a jerk, just not on the directly abusive way like Collounsbury. Instead, he set the standard for the now ofen-used “skirt the edge of trolling and then respond to people dismantling near-your troll with lalala I can’t hear you or oh, you misunderstand, now watch with amazement how I contradict half the stuff in my OP and pretend that it doesn’t invalidate everything I’ve said so far.” Either way, still a jerk. Just not in the same mold as Collounsbury.
Ah, but these two jerks didn’t get banned for being jerks, did they?
IIRC, the mods waited for both of them to slip up so they could get nailed on a technicality on a well-defined rule. One that’s not as nebulous as “don’t be a jerk”. IIRC, Collounsbury continued to directly insult members in GD after warnings and earlier bannings while december continued to deliberately misquote information taken from other sites.
Don’t call it the “don’t be a jerk” rule when it’s really the “Mod/Admin fiat” rule.
Well, the first one looked to me like a matter of directly insulting someone in GD. Specifically, referring to them as an “ill-informed purveyor of bigotry” followed by the “fuck off”. Again, Coll was being a jerk, but he also broke a well-defined rule.
In the second one it’s the same - constant insults. As was frequently the case with Coll, well-deserved insults, but still direct insults in GD. And still a well-defined rule.