Thanks for that, a little light reading.
Looks like the second paper did indeed split off groups into two cohorts, one looking at the 4 weeks gap and one with a 12 week gap for mix and match. Only the results for the 4 week cohorts are in that paper so it’ll be interesting how the 12 week matches up. I’ll do some digging and see if that has been published.
Boosted (Moderna) and de-flued this last weekend (or was I de-fleaed? I may have gotten in the wrong line.). Aside from sore arm in stereo and a little fatigue the next day, not much in the way of after effects.
Got shingrix and flu shots yesterday. Way worse than the covid shot, at least for me. Blechh.
The shingles shot hurts like anything.
Yeah, i also have a fever and general malaise.
I got the J&J in May. I’ve had a distinct uptick in arthritis and sciatic nerve issues that closely followed it. I have no way of linking the 2 but it doesn’t make me want to rush out and get a booster.
All my joints ached the day after my J&J shot, and some of them ached for more than a week. I reported that “unsolicited event” to the study I’m in. I’m quite certain it’s linked.
But if it’s at all reassuring, I had no such symptoms after I got my mRNA doses.
Seems to me, this might just be a matter of technique. I’ve had flu shots for years, usually nearly painless (often I totally didn’t feel a thing), but occasionally more painful. I had two pneumonia shots (both the same kind), one of which I didn’t even feel but the other knocked me on my ass. I’ve had five tetanus boosters in the past 50 years, four of which didn’t bother me a bit but one got my arm so sore, from shoulder to fingertips, that I totally couldn’t use that arm for a whole week. I heard all kinds of horror stories about the shingrix vax, but the ones I got didn’t bother me at all. Same with the Covid vaxes earlier this year.
Disclaimer: ALL these vaxes produced at least the usual mild-to-medium soreness at the vax site over the next day or two. I’m talking here about any unpleasant effects beyond that.
I don’t think, “I’m running a fever and feel like shit” is due to the technique of the person who vaccinated me. I think it’s due to my immune response to the shingles vaccine.
I was referring more to the sensations in actually getting the jab, and perhaps also to the ensuing soreness at the injection site. I’ve heard all kinds of horror stories about that, including some of my own that I mentioned just above. True, the fever and feeling shitty is separate from all that.
The jab didn’t hurt at all. It was the soreness for the next few days that was the pisser.
I very much doubt that my arm soreness from the Pfizer vaccine shots had anything to do with technique.
The administration of the shot was entirely painless both times. Over the next few hours, I developed a very sore, tender muscle about 6 inches or so below the level where the injection was. It hurt at rest, but hurt much more with use. It hurt more with the first shot than the second, but same place both times. I also had some muscle soreness and crampy feeling in my back and legs, but less than in my arm.
I had a tetanus shot once within less that a year of my previous one, because I forgot how recently I’d had one. My arm was extremely sore – way more than usual for that shot – and I had a very red, raised welt several inches across, centered on the injection point. I again don’t think that had anything to do with technique.
Pain from poor injecting technique shows up immediately. It could potentially last a while, but I don’t know of any way it could show up later.
I get a flu shot every year, and my experience with both technique and my body’s reaction to the shot has varied. I’ve had a few shots that were instantly agonizing thanks to some noob. Years ago, I got woozy and had to lie down from a flu shot that didn’t hurt going in. But last year I hit the jackpot with a skilled jabber and a lack of symptomatic immune response. Since I don’t like to watch I can’t be 100% certain I even got a shot, but I’m willing to take their word for it.
I tried to get boosted today but was turned away because I’m 3 days early. It turns out the health department’s scheduling system determined eligibility 180 days after the second shot, where the health department staff were looking for the day of the month to match (April 12, November 12). Unfortunately I couldn’t reschedule so I’m back looking for somewhere to get my booster.
One slightly irritating thing is that I now have a crossed out line on my vaccine card because they filled it out before they checked. Hopefully that doesn’t cause issues when I do get boosted, though I’ll probably carry a copy of my state vaccine record (showing no booster) as well.
That sounded grumpy, but I’m not. Just glad to be fully vaxxed and to have the option for a booster at all.
Well I’d sure as hell be grumpy.
My insurance company pulled the same shit with me once, over getting my teeth cleaned every six months. Now, I always schedule those kind of appointments (teeth cleaning, annual eye exam, annual medical check-up, etc.) for six month (or one year) + 1 week later just to avoid these kind of fuck-ups.
Which means that, if you live long enough, you’ll eventually miss a check up.
I had my yearly physical one year on New Year’s Eve. When I called to schedule the next one the following November, they said I had to wait until the following year (one year +1 day). I checked the policy, it said “one physical a year”, which I read to mean that I could have one on Dec 31 and then (if I could find an office open) my next one the very next day.
They (reluctantly) scheduled me, but my reading of the policy was upheld (didn’t even have to challenge the insurance company, they apparently just paid it).
What it also means is this: Just like your case, it can mean that I will eventually have to skip one entire calendar year (Jan. 1 through Dec. 31).
I follow a similar strategy, BTW, in scheduling my “Annual Credit Report” requests. I request the three reports, spaced out throughout the year. But after each report, I wait 13 months before requesting the same report again. So all three report requests are continually shifting down the year. Eventually, each of the reports gets skipped for an entire calendar year (because I ordered it in December of Year n then next in January of Year n+2).
Why do you do the 13 month thing? I used to request them (but have my credit frozen everywhere now so don’t think I need to) - there is a “once a year” thing, but I don’t think it tracks it that closely.
I don’t know how strictly they track that. If they get a request once, and the again 363 days later, do they reject it? I had that happen once, but I don’t think it was all that close.
Note also the vagaries of the United States Postal Service. I could send it one year on August 1, and they get it on August 4. Then I could send it the next year on Aug. 1 and they get it on Aug. 2 or 3. Then what happens? I don’t even want to know.
So after sending for a report, I wait until I have the physical hard-copy report in my physical hard-copy hands, then plan on sending the next request a year after that. But that typically takes about 3 weeks. To keep the scheduling real simple, I just schedule the next request for 13 months later. This allows enough slop in the schedule that neither I nor the Post Office need to be extremely accurate about it.
I drew up a schedule showing the exact dates I should send all three reports throughout the year, for the next ten years. That’s not as obsessive/compulsive as it sounds, because it was really easy. Every request is scheduled for the first day of a month, although it’s often several days before I actually send it.
And that’s everything you need to know about Covid Booster Shots!
Argh. These posts are giving me a flash back to having a long chat with IT about how they’d have far less people locked out of their accounts for failure to update their passwords if they stopped telling people in the reminder emails that you need to change your password “every six months” when they really meant “every 180 days.” For some reason they couldn’t grasp why the 5 day gap between the two would cause issues when they locked people out for being 2 days overdue. Now I reset a week before the deadline…