Now that we’ve had a point/counter-point, shot and retaliation, I feel the situation is “even” and I hereby remind BOTH samclem and Mr X that comments about other posters have no place in this forum. In this forum, we discuss the Staff Reports; comments about the character, history, or foibles of other posters is not appropriate.
Samclem: a poster’s ethnic background is not relevant. Period.
Mr X: a poster’s mental capacity is not relevant. Question mark.
If you want to call each other names, do it in the BBQ PIT forum.
Discussion here sticks to the questions of Mr Cody, evidence, implications, lack of evidence, and so forth. All cool?
According to the IMDB, the 1919 version of the film was shot in 3 places…Kernville, California, the Lesser Slave Lake, Alberta, and San Francisco Harbor.
I’ve e-mailed the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma asking if they any official statement regarding Mr. Cody’s ancestory. If they get back to me, I’ll let you know.
I would also point to Ms. Mikkelson’s article, as she not only does the research, but provides several cites and references. Whether you choose to believe them is up to you. But it does seem to suggest that Euty’s article, while poorly written and full of typos, is in fact correct.
Oh, and by the way, the quote Dexter Haven provides should read:
"This is the west, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." - From The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
I’m a fan of anyone who takes the time and energy out of their busy lives to help others. But I also call it like I see it. The point was, of course, that you were correct.
I was going to point out that the two sons were adopted, since nobody else seems to have noticed that in the article linked by samclem.
I found it funny that Mr.X was citing obituaries as verification that Cody was really an Indian. Perhaps someone with knowledge could elaborate, but obits aren’t exactly striving for accuracy. Who wrote the obits? What sources did they use for his information? Publicity biographies, stating Cody’s version? What incentive would the writers have to verify info printed in other sources?
Whereas samclem’s link is a well-researched, in depth look. It includes interviews with relatives and friends. Admittedly there’s a lot of second and third hand content, but if the dots connect between Cody and his claimed brothers, and the brothers to the family in Louisiana, and the half-sister, then that clenches it.
Snopes giving essentially the same story is supportive, but how much did Ms. Mikkelson verify herself, and how much rely on the other articles’ content?
From the snopes article:
Funny, that’s the first I’ve ever heard or seen of it. At least she had a link so I could see it.