I think these threads actually perform a valuable service at the SDMB because they concentrate and contain the crazy in a few easily-identifiable areas and keep it occupied so that it has less time to spread through and infest the rest of the boards.
Sort of like how Baywatch collected a bunch of really shitty actors into one place so you could just click past it on your way to watching something that didn’t completely suck.
Parks are almost invariably in residential neighborhoods, so people in their homes will still be able to hear them. So how this constitutes a solution, I have no idea.
The sounds of kids playing is someone that, during the day, a person has to accept as part of life. I’m sorry someone in your house works the graveyard shift; maybe your run your fortune telling scam at night, I dunno, but we can’t all walk around playing Let’s Be Super Quiet all day. Cities and towns are not quiet; people also use motors in cities to do a dozen things, but a degree of noise from those is inevitable and has to be accepted. If I complained about the sound of cars passing by my house I’d rightly be regarded as a nut case, because by choosing to live in this little city I tacitly accepted living nearby where people drive their cars.
Kids out screaming at 2 AM? Ask them to stop, and if they don’t, call the police. That’s simply not legal. Metal apocalypse party? Same thing. Some idiot revving his Harley in his front driveway at midnight? Same thing.
Yeah, I’m sure it could happen. Did you call the police? Last time a kid (not an infant) started screaming in our neighborhood at night my wife set out to find out why and the police were there shortly after her.
ZPG hasn’t explained yet what time of day the kids were actually being noisy. I’m revising my estimate from normal kid noise at 8 pm to normal kid noise during daylight hours. If that’s the case, she’s a real bitch for retaliating by rocking their faces-- if she did, it sounds like bullshit. 1) it implies that she has friends, and 2) just because ZPG is too stupid to call the police with a noise complaint doesn’t mean her neighbors must be.
On a street in which at least halif of the residents work nights and graveyard shifts, a lot of kid noise anytime is unacceptable. There is a park a short walk away where kids can scream and bang. All the responsible parents use it. These assholes didn’t want to and responded rudely to requests to keep the noise down by making nasty remarks that many of the complainers were bad parents for daring to discipline their children and choosing to work the more profitable graveyard shifts. The police, who were called, tend to concentrate their resources on fighting gang activity and drug dealing. Rock the Block, as we like to refer to it now, was arrived after much neighborhood discussion and was the least violent option. Many of the neighborhood men were in favor of just beating the crap out of the childrens’ father or encouraging the cholos to target them.
Sounds from the park have to travel considerable longer distances than sounds from the backyard nearby. It reduces the noise considerably. Some parks even have sound walls similiar to housing developments on the edge of freeways which cut down even more noise. It can make a substantial difference in noise quality.
This says so much about you, and the pitiful pathetic thing is that you lack self-awareness to recognize it.
I’m glad you live in a place where there are enough cops to come right away on a noise complaint. Unfortunately LA is not a place like that. I called a few times when it went on a particularly long time but only once did the police actually show up, that I know of. They told the people to hold it down.
You seriously have a problem with worshipping children if you think it is acceptable to allow children to wreck people’s lives rather than be decently constrained. Quite honestly, what do you expect the neighborhood to do, let these little brats cost someone their job because of sleep deprivation or expect the parents to restrain them? The truly pitiful, pathetic thing is that you lack awareness of any way of life outside of the protected middle class bubble.
I expect graveyard shift workers to realize that the hours come with some inconveniences, like buying blackout curtains and wearing earplugs so you can sleep, or even soundproofing your home or moving to a rural area. I’m guessing your poverty make the last two impossible. Sucks to be you, a lot, but poverty’s only a small part of that.
If a neighbor asked me to be considerate of their sleep schedule, I’d probably make some concessions. I’d not forbid my kids from playing in the yard-- it’s what the yard is for. However, in your case, I’d make a major concession and move away from the freakshow. Again, not an option for you, you poor victim of child noise.
It is amazing to be lectured on correct behavior by somebody who doesn’t know the answer to “what do two wrongs make?” and would consider beatings as an appropriate measure for children playing during the day in their own yard. I imagine somebody has said or will say that you’re not so bad, like flatlined did for curlcoat. They’re assholes too.
I find it amazing to be lectured on correct behavior by somebody who doesn’t understand the concept of community responsibility. Are you so divorced from any contact with your neighbors and community that working together for the common good is completely alien to you? That your children’s lives are the only ones that matter to you is seriously depraved. I would not want you for a neighborhood. And when the law doesn’t work to correct a wrong, sometimes action has to be taken. If you want peace, work for justice, not special treatment for brats.
I finmd it amazing someone who cons people out of their money with phony-baloney “Fortune telling” is talking about community responsibility.
Hey! I’m offended now. I so shouldn’t have gotten involved in this thread. Have you ever looked at curlcat’s other contributions to the forum?
I’m an asshole becaue I think she gives good advice when kids aren’t involved? I’m an asshole because I think her on-liners are funny? I’m an asshole because I didn’t get involved in a pile on someone.
Well, I think that you are are a poopyhead who is just trying to keep this tread going because you like to make people feel bad.
Throws a spitball at you and goes off to eat library paste.
My kids safely playing in my yard during the day is not wrong. It certainly isn’t illegal, unlike harassing neighbors by holding loud all-night parties. Take appropriate action by buying some earplugs already and stop being such a crotch, you monumental dumbass.
I have worked nights in the past, and sleeping during the day sucks. But you buy earplugs and suck it up, because it’s nobody else’s fault that you have decided to sleep all day and work all night. What do you do about all the other daytime noises - lawn mowers, weed whackers, leaf blowers, the neighbour reroofing their house, cars and motorcycles revving, garbage and recycling trucks, people walking past and talking, adults out in their yard having BBQs? Or are all those things okay, but kids are not?
I’ve seen her in other threads. I’ve never seen her say anything witty or at all intelligent, on any topic. I will grant you that she is much less abrasive in threads that don’t involve children.
Yeah, I’ve seen curlcoat in BBQ Pit a lot, but nothing funny or useful. Mostly it’s bitching about other people’s kids. I was surprised, actually, that her bad idea pregnancy thread wasn’t in BBQ Pit. I’ve pretty sure never seen anything from her-- worthwhile or no-- in GQ, Games or Cafe, the forums I read most. Admittedly, I only read a tiny bit of those. Maybe she’s awesome at fantasy football. She’s a total gash about kids, though, and sees other viewpoints about as readily as pail of dry cement.
So…how does this make ME an asshole? This is an online forum, I don’t know Curlie irl, I only know what she posts here. Curlcoat doesn’t like kids. I get it. I don’t like people who mow their yards before 9am on Saturday. This is an online forum. A place that we can rant or share. Curlcoat shares, just like the rest of us.
Have I ever been an asshole to you? I don’t remember ever taling to you in the past. If I offended you, please tell me where and when. As far as I know, I’ve only been an asshole to one person here, and I meant every word I said. If I’ve offended you, please tell me where and when.
I was referring to ZPG and overstated the matter, sorry.
Maybe what I should have said was, “anybody who would support a person like ZPG, who would prevent kids from playing normally where kids normally do, who thinks it’s fine to get back at the parents for letting their kids play normally, and who thinks that targeting the kids for beatings is an option, then that person is, in my opinion, probably an asshole, same as ZPG, even if the reason for support is not related to the subject of children.”
Thank you.
I thought you were talking about me being willing to look at Curlies point of view, not that you thought that I had bought into ZPG’s point of view.
IMO, there is a big difference between not wanting kids around and just hating them because they were spawned by someone who offers them up for adoption.
Meh…its late and I have an injured bunny to deal with. I’ve learned my lesson about pit threads that involve other posters.
Have a good evening, and I hope your work day is good tomorrow.
Bless your heart.