Cynthia Nixon states she's "gay by choice". Does this harm the LGBT community?

[David42]

@Miller

Point to anywhere on this thread - hell, on this entire message board - that I’ve ever argued that gay relationships are in anyway “special.” I have never made that argument, or anything like it. What I consistently argue for is for gay relationships to be treated the same as heterosexual relationships.

You don’t say so in those words, but you describe things as they opught to be as though you are.

In my view, the only relationships (based on sex acts that set it apart from other relationships) that is worthy of celebrating, upholding, etc., by society at large are worth celebrating and dignifying not because it’s a sex act but because it is the source of all human life. Anything that puts a particular kind of sex above others based on the sex is just another way of getting your rocks off. It is fine to engage in whatever kind of sex you dig, I support you there, but don’t ask me to get all excited about it and think that it’s worthy of elevation and want to legislate legitimacy on the same terms as the act that gives life. Sorry, I am not going for it.

Particularly, it is highly offensive when gays compare their sex act as the equivalent of the act of making life. You draw comparisons between my child and your frothy mix of lube and feces and tell me it’s equal.

@Miller

It is telling that you compare the totality of a heterosexual family with one specific sex act associated with (but by no means unique to) homosexuality. And, of course, you manage to do so in a way that strongly implies that homosexuals don’t care about raising families or the continuation of the human species.

Nice distortion, but your sex act still is worthy of celebration, nor is any sex act.

@Miller

This is the most extraordinary example of blaming the victim I’ve ever seen. If a friend comes up to you with a black eye, and complains about the guy who punched him in the face, do you berate him for not getting out of the way of the guy’s fist? If you hear someone complain about a neighbor playing their stereo loud all night long so they couldn’t sleep, do you lecture them about how they can’t have everything they want, and it’s their own fault for not moving to a quieter neighborhood?

You’re way out in left field here. Refusing to see you as the equivalent of a heterosexual couple is in no way approval of homosexual battery. I don’t see the connection between your comment and my comment it is in response to.

What I was talking about was the fact is that marijuana legalization is important to my lifestyle too, but I am not arrogant enough to demand that all people in all places conform to my desires. I’d be happy enough if my state did it. If you’re second class because everything you want is not legal in all places, then so am I. But I don’t think of myself as a second class citizen and neither should you.

@Miller

Yeah, great. You “think of us as equals.” I’d be more impressed if you treated us like equals.

There’s not a single thing I do that I would deny to you, nor a single thing that I would allow people to do that I would deny to homosexuals. You want to do something that I would deny to all, namely, mock the creation of life in marriage.

If I were ever to be persuaded, it wouldn’t be because you convinced me that a “frothy mix” is the equivalent of a baby.