I’m tired of reaching out, picking up a full aerosol container of something (SPF 70 Sunscreen, Carb Cleaner, Lysol, Bug spray) and finding there’s NO FRIGGING PROPELLANT LEFT!
I don’t recall this EVER happening in the Age of CFC’s.
But I could be wrong, I was kinda young back then.
But I’M ANGRY! AND I’M SHAKING MY FIST AT YOU!!!
Don’t forget asthma inhalers. This really hacks me off. Before albuterol was generic and about $15.00 for an inhaler. But then they banned the CFC inhalers. Now the drug companies have come up with a new way of delivering the medicine but guess what? Because the drug is the same but the delivery method is different the inhalers are not generic anymore and are about $45 - $65 depending on where you get that.
I’m very lucky. I can get by with one inhaler per year. My last one has lasted me 18 months, my asthma just isn’t that bad, but I feel for others who need it and have no insurance.
I’ve never had that problem, ever, in the post-CFC age. But, I hardly use aerosols to the bitter end.
I stared the thread because in the last two months I had a DOA paint can, a DOA sunscreen can, and a DOA Carb Cleaner can…I think it’s a conspiracy!
I’ve never even heard of this happening.
I know what you mean. After I do some whip-its, I can never get the cream out of the can and I can’t stop giggling!
I don’t understand - why do you buy these things in cans with propellants???
Sun screen comes in a tube, squeezed out onto your skin. Lysol (if you need it at all) is in a plastic bottle with a tiny opening.
Oven spray or similar have pump mechanism that work with air and your arm muscles.
As for cream, if I buy that stuff (which is never as good as real cream whipped with a kitchen aid, of course, so only for special circumstances), it’s powered with laughing gas NO2. It never was with CFCs in the past 20 years.
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Because you are brilliant and the rest of us are stupid. :rolleyes:
How do you buy your paint? How do you buy your Carb Cleaner?
I can assure you my current experiences will flavor how I buy my NEXT containers of Bug Spray and Sunscreen.
Sorry, I was so surprised at why these things are being offered at all in your country in propellant cans.
Do you mean that sunscreen is only available in spray cans and not plastic bottles are in supermarkets or drugstores? Or did you choose the spray can against the plastic bottle? If so, why? I simply don’t get it.
You mean, for painting walls? Is that a trick question? It comes in plastic buckets with 40- 50 liters, or in case of the special paint, in a flat plastic container.
What is a carb cleaner? Some thing for a car engine? I don’t have a car, but oil is sold in little cans. I read about sprays to freshen up the smell or improve the look before selling the car, but I don’t know how they are sold now that CFCs are banned.
So how long have CFCs been banned in your country as propellants, and for how long have alternative propellants been used? I guess I don’t understand why companies would offer sun screen spray at all, but maybe I buy more green than the average person.
I’m willing to write off cultural differences as cultural differences. Suncreen is available here in tubes, bottles, pumps, and reciently aerosol cans…primarily for convenience.
Certain kinds of paint are designed to be applied using a thinner and propellant. Either an air-compressor and spraygun…or an aerosol can. Cans are more expensive, but if you don’t need to open a whole paint shop, they’re cheaper for one-off projects. Painting metal, car parts, etc cannot be done with a brush or roller.
Carburetor Cleaner is a petroleum distillate used to remove grease, dirt, grime, and crap off of…well…dirty parts. Less Toxic citrus based degreasers are available in spray bottles, but they don’t work as well.
CFCs were banned in the late 80’s, IIRC. Aerosolized containers for sunscreen and bugspray have only shown up in the few years.
See, this is meant what I don’t understand - where is the convenience in the first place for sunscreen? Esp. as it’s likely to be in hot places - at the beach etc., where aerosol cans are dangerous (they all carry the warning not to throw into fire or leave lying in the sun, because they could overheat and explode).
What is … well convenient, or rather, well-intentioned, is green sunscreen that’s recently appeared. The idea is to better see where you have applied it, because while some sun-screen is white paste, some other kinds are clear oil, so you might leave some parts out oiling yourself. Thus, green-coloured.
What they are trying to get across this summer to consumers from experts is that people use by far not enough sunscreen, as Cecil said.
I later remembered graffiti sprayers. I know that there are lot of them, not only because I see the freshly sprayed subway cars etc., but also because a few have managed to become respected artists who work for payments, by painting wood construction fences, subway passages etc. on order from the company (apparently thinking that a nicely done painting will be less likely to be defaced by other sprayers). But I don’t know what they use in their cans now, or if it’s less effective than the CFCs previously used. They aren’t complaining publically 
But for legitimate spray jobs, most people would use an air compressor, I guess (you can borrow these for a small job at the DIY market).
Well, non-car-related cleaners that still need to be aerolized like my oven cleaner comes in pump bottles, which I prefer, both for enviromental reasons, and so the propellant (whatever it might be) won’t leak out of the can if it’s stored a long time. So there might be cleaners available over here with normal spray cans that I haven’t noticed because I don’t need them.
Same here.
Ah. Bugspray - do you mean the stuff you spray into the air to keep a room free from moskitos, or the stuff you put on your skin to protect against bites? I remember in the 80s, Autan was the big brand on the market, and my parents used both spray in the room and stuff on the skin. It didn’t help much, but stank, and we stopped doing it because it was too expensive considering it wasn’t 100% effective. A bit later, it was discovered that the ingredients in those room sprays was not very healthy for humans, and should not be used around children at all.
Today, the outdoor travel shop in my city recommends mostly citrus-based stuff on your skin or as candles to repel moskitos, and nets for the night if you travel in normal areas, and specially treated nets all time if you travel in dangerous territory where moskitos carry diseases (then, you should use full force).