Danny Glover's Humble Opinion

Just as a matter of curiosity, does Charlton Heston make you wanna puke?

Exactly. And I can even recall instances when celebrities were invited to testify before some Congressional committee, just as if they were experts on the pending legislation.:frowning:

lmao, thanks Spoofe, that’s almost exactly why my hubby says we should let him go to US prisons, especially on in NY.

As it happens, yeah. Albeit perhaps not for the reason you would expect. I abhor all insufferables, and in the case of the Hollywood crowd, it often has nothing to do with the substance of their views. I’m sure I agree more with Streisand on most issue that I do with Heston, for example. As between the two, I must confess, however, that Streisand makes me want to puke just a tad more.

Here they are, in order, beginning witht the most puke-provoking:

Farrell
Sheen
Streisand
Heston
Glover

Rmat<—lifelong DEM, again, btw.

Well, now, that’s even more interesting! Care to expand on why?

Because it has always seemed to me that celebrities have the same right to protest, speak out, be active for whatever causes they care about, as any other American, and it isn’t their fault that people care. People also care what they have for breakfast, what they wear, how they exercise, and who they’re screwing, and they have very little control over that interest. Why should they restrain themselves from doing what they believe in just because it will, in fact, get more attention than if they were unknown? Seems to me that’s more reason to do it.

Because if nothing else, I think it’s fair to say that most of these people at least have the courage of their convictions, whether we agree with their convictions or not. And I think that’s an admirable quality in anyone. They are willing to work for them, take time out of their lives to stump for them, protest for them, and in Sheen’s case, get repeatedly arrested for them. This is not generally career-boosting. It isn’t necessarily career damage, but it can be. But it is almost never career boosting.

So I really am interested in what is it about them in this context that makes you wanna puke?

stoid

So he’s morally consistent…

…and respects attorney-client privlige.

Clearly, an example of the worst that humanity has to offer :rolleyes:

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Of course they enjoy that right. I never suggested that any of these buffoons was NOT within his or her rights.

Suffice to say that I find most of these people pompous, sanctimonious, and generally insufferable. I find Heston shallow and misguided, but I’ll not quarrel with you about his “courage.” Not so with the others; I am not at all convinced that their activites are “courageous” in the manner you suggest because I see no evidence that present-day Hollywood bigshots ever retaliate against celebrities who promote a leftist agenda. Certainly it hasn’t hurt Sheen, who is the most militant of the clowns I mentioned; indeed, it appears to have helped his career.

Morever, I would not jump to the conclusion that the motive of each of these individuals is as altruistic and admirable as you appear willing to assume. Some people get involved in “causes” (and the precise nature of the cause isn’t necessarily important to them) for deeply selfish reasons–to allay a sense of guilt (say, over having made obscene amounts of money for doing something that is, in the big scheme of things, of minimal social utility)or to gratify a craving for adulation (the kind you get when others praise you, on message boards and elsewhere, for how much you “care”). I suspect people in “show” business might be keenly susceptible to the latter.

Um, I had no idea that Wil Farrell was so heavily political. I know he’s a gifted and talented comic writer and performer, but really I’ve never seen him appearing in a highly charged political context before. I’m pretty interested in seeing some cite’s replete with quotes from Mr. Farrell.

What’s that you say? No. No! Really? Are you sure? Well…that’s a horse of a different color then, isn’t it? :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

I agree as far as Streisand. She’s an egomaniac of the very highest and rarest order. She shows up- LATE- to a rehearsal for the Emmy Awards show and walks up to the Director and Producer on stage. She says, " Okay, enough about me, what about me?". Direct quote. The woman is frightening. And since when does anyone care what she thinks about ANY THING???

Cartooniverse

That’s MIKE Farrell.

Mike Farrell? The guy from MASH? Is he still around?

I was running through a list of famous Farrells in my head, and I couldn’t figure out if you were pissed at the lead singer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Dax from Deep Space Nine, or that guy from SNL

He is around, and starring a perfectly dreadful program called Providence. I’ve never seen the show but if he plays an overbearing pain in the ass it’s a perfect role.

I’d add Ed Asner and Dennis Weaver to that list.

Even though I like both as actors…

Well, George Carlin would be wrong. That’s only true if you’re thinking of someone who exhibits median intelligence, not average.

A median is an form of average.

Miller

Do you mean Anthony Kiedis? or perhaps Perry Farrell once of Jane’s Addiction fame? Or maybe Dave Navarro who has played in both bands?

Dontya just hate rock smartasses? :wink:

[nitpick]Actually, Eternal, in a series or group of numbers a median is the value with the same number of values greater than it than less than it. A mean is an average, and a mode is the value occurring most often within the series[/nitpick]

we now return you to your regularly scheduled pit thread.

Of course Danny’s entitled to his opinion butt it does seem he often tries to push his values or agenda while using his fame as an actor as a levering device.

Frankly Danny, I’v gotton too old for your shit.

Well, yeah, that’s kind of the point, isn’t it? If you feel passionately about an issue, and people listen to you because they like your movies, why nopt have them listen to you talk about something you feel passionate about?

I’m no fan of celebrity worship, but I’d rather celebs try to educate the public and make the world a better place than pay attention to who’s doing who, as long as this nation’s hanging on their every word in the first place.

But Menecio, we’re not going to always agree with their cause or message and that’s when I’m jealous of the fact that their voice is louder than the average person’s.

Sure, when Danny’s yelling out “murder is bad” or “use your blinker” we’re going to agree with him and support his influence.

But when a popular celebrity spouts off about some controversial topic and a bunch of sheep follow him because he did, you know, that really cool thing in that really cool movie last year… well, everyone that takes the opposite stance on the issue is going to resent his voice and the uneven sway it holds.

Not everybody’s passionate about PETA, a vegetarian and wants to own assualt rifles. We all have different views on all these topics and when Dick Gere tells me to be compassionate towards Osama I say blow that too out your ass.

JMHO.

I’m not sure I see what you’re saying here. So, when a group of people (Amnesty International, in this case) uses a stategy to spread their message (a celebrity spokesperson) that will get the unwashed masses to sit up and take notice, they’ve opened themself up to criticism more than they would if they just, say, handed out pamphlets?

You can disagree with the message all you want, but I don’t think exploiting celebrity status is an invalid strategy for spreading it.