Dealing with Biblical Contradictions; Or, Does Pi Equal 3? (Long)

For the sake of argument, let’s say a cubit is 18 inches. That would mean the brim extended nearly 9 3/4 inches beyond the point where the circumference was measured. It also means it was 7 1/2 feet tall and 18 feet wide. That’s a big bucket of water.

And your point is that Martha Stewart would have made a better job of interior decoration than the King of Israel?

What I was pointing out is that when you read the bible, you find mistakes, errors, and hatred. I read it and find comfort, and love for every soul that lives. The bible is the same, in both cases. I think you opened up the book looking for one thing, and I opened it up looking for another. I hold it to be a book, not a object of worship. I take issue with those who promote it beyond the spirit of my Lord, but I am constrained to do so with love as He does. I also take issue with those who use it as a tool to disdain others for their faith. Some of these are Christians, some are not.

“How the hell can a person go to work in the morning, come home in the evening, and have nothing to say?” John Prine

If there are errors in the Bible, how can it be the Word of God? I thought He didn’t make any mistakes. And the first time I read the Bible, I was NOT looking for errors. I didn’t start noticing them till I was much older.

Besides, it should make no difference if I was looking for errors or not. If there were no errors, no one would never have found any.

(BTW: there was an error in my math. Ten cubits is equal to 15 feet, not 18.)

The Bible is not the Word of God. The Bible is just a book. Jesus is the Word of God.

Then so am I and so are you, because Jesus was just a man.

Yes, Jab! That’s right! I think you’ve finally gotten it!

If I am not capable of doing miracles (and I’m NOT), neither was Jesus. If Jesus could not do miracles, he is not God, he is not worth worshipping and the entire NT is either just a nice story or a deliberate lie.

Do I still have it?

Well, it certainly sounds like you’ve made your decision. But only you would know that. Meanwhile, you might want to check out denial of the antecedent.

For those who read Contact instead of just seeing the movie know that there’s a message from the Creator of the Universe hidden in Pi. :slight_smile:

I beg to differ.

My premise is that neither I nor Jesus could do miracles. The conclusion is that neither Jesus nor I are/were God. I believe that Jesus could not do miracles since the only evidence that he could is in one book. There is no extra-Biblical corroborating evidence. (The Roman historians who wrote of Jesus provided no such evidence.) Any respectable scientist or police detective can tell you you should not reach a conclusion with only one piece of evidence.

I also feel safe in believing I have never performed a miracle. I certainly don’t remember doing any, at any rate.

Sorry to intrude with what I am sure is a silly question, but I’m not a biblical scholar, nor do I have time to become one right now, but I thought I’d offer this:

Originally posted by Triskadecamus
From Kings Chapter 7, Verse 23:

Is there any way for circumference to mean “base”? Maybe the sides of the thing sloped gently outwards? (not uncommon in buckets, and this is a particularly large one!)
Brim is fairly unambiguous, but circumference? Given the base measurement, you have everything you need to determine volume, don’t you?

Just my 2 cents.

I got the impression that, in Christianity, that there were 3 wise men was a tradition that was handed down.

Good for you on the soft-sell approach. Pardon the slight hijack, but I feel compelled to recount a psychological experiment I read about in a textbook on changing opinions on a subject that supports this idea. I’ve been using it since with a lot of success. Here’s the experiment:

Group 1: Given a hard-sell lecture, brochures, etc on dangers of tooth decay. Tries to persuade better brushing habits, etc.

Group 2: Given a factual presentation on the subject, just data and no intentional persuausion.

Group 3: Unrelated documentary.

Group 2 showed significant long-term change in dental hygiene. Group 1 did not. Draw your own conclusions, but the one made by the researchers is that people like to feel that they’re making their own decisions and are more likely to be swayed by a presentation that doesn’t insult their intelligence.

My books are packed (just moved) otherwise I’d give a cite. IIRC, it was a first year psychology book - which more than a few folks on the board should have.