The difference is that I don’t see Polanski’s face onscreen during his movies. It’s hard to enjoy any movie with Gibson onscreen because I want to slap his face.
As for drunk vs. sober, he’s been quite the fuckwizzle in scheduled, sit-down press interviews where he was (presumably) stone cold sober. For example, his homophobic remarks about 20 years ago in Spain in an interview with El Pais. After a nasty preamble about how he doesn’t like gays because “they take it up the ass”, he stood up, turned around, shoved his (fully clothed) butt at the camera, pointed to his ass and said: “See this? This is for shit.” to reaffirm that he’s just not into the buttseks. He’s been saying nasty stuff about all sorts of people for a long time, but his PR crew is just very good at keeping a good lot of it under wraps.
Of course, if you can’t see him on screen without thinking of things that prevent you from enjoying the movie then there’s no reason to go see a movie he’s in.
But when I see a Jim Carey movie I don’t spend the whole time wondering how many kids he’s killed with his anti-vaxx nonsense and I expect that’ll be true for any future Gibson movies. If it’s not, then I won’t watch them either.
I’ve actually heard African Americans use that phrase a lot. I think part of it is, it’s socially acceptable for blacks to use the “N” word but not anyone else.
So Gibson like a lot of other people hears this and thinks he can use it. Well he’s still an idiot regardless, and I’m willing to admit this could not be the case at all.
But when one hears “raped by a pack of…” used by African Americans over and over, I could understand how someone without my social and PC savvy could use it
I’m not lumping it in with violent behavior. I’m lumping it in with stupid offensive behavior that makes me not like a person very much wherein I still have no problem watching them perform on screen without thinking about that stupid offensive behavior.
But if I had to pick which I would eliminate from the world: Mel Gibson saying racist and sexist things and Jim Carey having some success disseminating an anti-vaccination message then Mel Gibson would still be saying racist and sexist things.
If you’ve been following Mel Gibson’s exploit’s, then you’d realize that your theory is, pardon me, “bullshit.” It’s not about being “PC”. Gibson has a history of racism and violence.
I recall a guy I played roller hockey with in Calabasas back about 1997. He used to referee youth soccer in Malibu and I asked him if there were famous parents watching their kids play. He said of course, but they tended to be like other parents. But then he made a point to say, “except for Mel Gibson, that guy was a complete asshole father at the games. I had to tell him to shut up a few times.” Nothing about racism or misogyny necessarily,but certainly a hint that he was not that good a guy.
Here’s the tape [audio NSFW!]. As with Bill O’Reilly’s accuser, the forethought to record a series of offensive rants doesn’t speak greatly of her motives, but Mel is clearly out of control.
Also, he cheated on her pretty soon after leaving the first wife. And went sour on her soon after destroying his first marriage to be with her. With a grain of salt some could believe he “needed” to leave his wife for a (conveniently young and much hotter model) his Actual One True Love. This though ends up looking like a drunken hookup between two people who don’t especially like each other getting worse and worse. Talk about bad impulse control. If you’re going to look scummy by leaving the aging mother of your children, do it for a relationship that will at least last a decent interval.
By the way, other than the crudity, what strikes me most is what a . . . whiny little biatch Mel sounds like on that tape. I mean, Charlie Sheen, Jesse James, those guys are heels and jerks, but Mel sounds at points almost hysterical, deeply insecure, etc. Not exactly the billionaire-alpha-male-jock brand of jerkery I was expecting . . . isn’t obsessing over your girlfriend’s provocative clothing the province of desperate schnerdlings who are afraid that if she leaves them they’ll never get any trim again?
ETA (and as noted this is no excuse) as I listen I may be inferring a bit of a slur, but I guess a lot of this would make a bit more sense if Mel is just so out of control with the booze that he is effectively, literally drunk most of his waking hours. Could mess with your frame of reference, state of mind, proportionality, emotionalism.
Are you serious? Doesn’t speak greatly of her motives?
According to her attorneys he has threatened violence in the past. I’d say recording every single call with him from then on out would be the smart thing to do.
She might have people on messageboards making ignorant and critical remarks about her, but at least she’s doing what she can to prove her case that he’s dangerous.
Even if Blacks are known for using “Nigger” with each other in what can only be described as a “comradely” fashion,* I’m going to need a cite to your claim that we routinely go around talking about “packs of wild niggers” “rap[ing” women].
Blacks who do this are idiots too but I understand what they think they mean by using it that way, and that they their goals is to subvert the word by using it themselves.
“Every single call with him from then out” should=none. Seriously, someone makes a serious and (you think) credible threat of violence – you get it on tape once – and then you cut off all contact. You move out. You seek a protective order (whatever the case may have been in the past, courts today for the most part are not at all neglectful about actual or threatened domestic violence, and the applicant generally has her (his) allegations taken largely at face value, which might be for the best though it has the potential for mischief). You move out. You don’t continue to accept his calls and hold lengthy conversations with the intent of drawing him out and recording him in his insane threats – you don’t do that if all you want is a protective order. You might well do it if you were looking for leverage to embarrass him or exact a particularly advantageous financial settlement with ten tapes as Exhibits A-J in the divorce court.
While she may have been taping him for a sort of protection, the chief reason was clearly for blackmail, some sort of a shakedown or to gather some tasty evidence that she could sell to a tabloid paper or sleazy entertainment news program.
She may well have feared him at some point (and apparently rightfully so) but if she was in true fear of imminent physical violence she would have called 911 pronto and not stuck around to see what an enraged, violent alcoholic might do when in a fury.
No one EVER deserves to get battered, but when he hit her she was certainly seeing dollar signs as well as seeing stars…
