Dear Nick and Cynthia (a telephone rant)

Fill your mailbox with concrete.

I would like my pony as soon as possible. Email me and I’ll give you the address.
You’ll have to use UPS, though. Fedex will not send a pony express.

You can find the location of public USPS mailboxes in your town by using this handy site.

I live in an old house that’s been divided into three apartments. The mailboxes for all three units are on the front porch of the building. I occasionally get not only mail for previous residents of my apartment (in which I’ve resided for five years), but advertising flyers and other correspondence (including a tax form) for people who’ve long since moved away from the other two apartments. I’m not sure if the misplaced mail is the responsibility of the postal carrier or of the other tenants, but I often bring the day’s haul inside, only to head back out a minute later to put an envelope or catalogue in the right box (especially if the address label features the phrase OR CURRENT RESIDENT).

Dante, I’m gonna call you on that pony. All you should have to do is call your local PO and tell them you don’t want flyers. (of course the local Flyer Force or whatever will still deliver flyers…my brother happened to work for one of those services when he was about 15 so I know that those have Do Not Deliver lists and you can get on that list by calling them too…). If you have a halfway intelligent Postmaster or Lead Hand that should stop all your flyers. EXCEPT for town notices and political flyers. I hate delivering flyers, so all the incentive I need is a note in your mailbox saying “No flyers”.

Of course if you have someone, uh, lazy or stupid running your post office, you might be screwed. In the same way you’re screwed if you special order a cheese burger and it comes back THREE TIMES with ketchup on it…seriously…ketchup is the red one…
*disclaimer: I did not read any posts further along that the one where I was offered a pony so I’m sure this is off topic, but I’ve always wanted a pony so, uh, piss off

Here ya go!

Ready to ship, but we’ll need a better address.

And a better pony (bad link).

Awww ugly ponies are the best kind!

Thanks for the advice. Pony’s in the mail, just listen for the braying.

Damn thing wouldn’t shut up. You’d think it’d never had stamps stapled to it before…

Uh, so, I just got back from sorting mail. I have 45 minutes till delivery starts so I opted to get some breakfast. I have to add that no matter what you do, mail could still get sent back to you. This happened this morning and it’s so hilariously stupid…ugh!

I delivered a piece of mail knowing that the tenant had moved (as you recall I’m obligated to do it, and if i refuse: disciplinary action). The new tenant actually looked up the old tenant’s new address. She crossed out the old one (not blacked out, just wrote through it with pen lines) and wrote on the new address. That was a really nice thing to do IMO. I tossed it in the outgoing mail bin and delivered it back to the PO for processing. This morning I got the letter back with a directive to deliver it because we don’t forward mail for free. (and a snippy little note on the letter saying it costs $1.05 per letter to forward mail.)

I decided to take this to the Lead Hand (like a postmaster but for a smaller PO) and point out that the old tenant clearly had moved. Did I really have to deliver a letter for a second time to an address I know to be incorrect? (that the new tenant had taken the time to point out) Shouldn’t we RTS the sucker?

NOPE! I have to deliver it again with the snippy note. (I guess I can get that, maybe the new tenant actually does want to pay to forward that mail :rolleyes: )

Now I’m gonna get yelled at and called an idiot by that new tenant. Really, I don’t blame her. Honestly, I hope she does just throw it away.

Putting flyers in mailboxes is illegal in the U.S. I verified this with our local postmaster.

Ponies don’t bray. You’re thinking of donkeys. Ponies nicker, whinny, neigh, snort, and fart. Sometimes quite loudly.

What drugs is your Lead Hand on? Does he/she really think that the RECIEVER of mail NOT ADDRESSED TO THEM has to pay for forwarding? The sender has to pay, not the reciever. And some government people wonder why dudes think that bureaucrats are worthless.

Good pun. Bad pun? A good use of words with intent to pun.

Spikey Kitten, your supervisor is indeed a useless bureaucrat. That’s why I just black out the bad address - make tiny little brains like his happy.

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If he was a good bureaucrat, blacking out the address would NOT make him happy, according to the USPS website on returning misdelivered mail you should not erase or mark over the address.

I don’t know if it’s the same here or not. (I work for Canada Post). Technically, how the forwarding thing works in this case is that she recieved it and is re-mailing it. So the regular postage rate applies. The old tenant lives in the States hence the $1.05 instead of the $0.51 regular postage.

And yes my supervisor is an idiot. Though he is the lowest possible level of bureaucrat and I think it bugs him since he’s about 60 and the best he ever did was Lead Hand. (which is a SHIT job)

So in other words, MsRobyn did the wrong thing by not going out of the way to do her postmans job for him?
I’m not arguing with you DrDeth, I’m just saying - the postman won’t take the mail back, even though it is his job (as far as I know) and while she could take it to a mailbox somewhere in her city, I hardly see it as being her “duty” because the damn post office wouldn’t even take it to mail…?

Just my .02

Brendon

Her postman was refusing to do his job,which got him fired, and got MsRobyn her mail screwed up. Once she saw it was going to be a pissing contest (which they both lost), then taking the mail to a public mailbox would have helped both MsRobyn and the previous tenant.

The failure of her carrier to do his job (for which he was penalized) would not be a very good defense if the Postal Inspectors got tough with MsRobyn .

In the UK whenever a person moves home they should complete a Mail Re-Direction form at the Post Office, this can be for 3, 6,9 or 12 months and obviously varies in cost.

After the re-direction expires the posman/woman is obliged to deliver the mail to the old address and what usually happens then is:-

  1. The present occupier forwards it on by writing the new address, no charge for re-delivery is made by the PO.

  2. Returns it to the PO marked ‘Gone Away’ at this point the postie who delivered it would affix a sticker to the envelope and fill in the appropriate details, it would then go back to the sender.

A postal worker can’t (or shouldn’t) RTS mail that has not been delivered in the first place unless there is a ‘Special Instruction’ card authorising this.

My fear of opening mail gives me the benefit of not having to worry about any of this. Wait, wasn’t this a phone rant?

I don’t know Carlos García.

Really.

Truly.

Scout’s parole and all, guys!

And yet, the phone number I had for two years must have been his previously. The best deal I’d found for calls to Spain was with MCI; every three months or so I’d get four calls from AT&T trying to get me to switch carriers.

One call for Carlos García, in English.

One call for Nava, in English.

One call for Carlos García, in Spanish.

One call for Nava, in Spanish.

As you can tell, my lastname starts by a letter higher than G. I really would like to know why doesn’t AT&T cross-reference their own freaking records, but I’m also very sure that, even though I reall,

absolutely,

and most truthfully have never met a Señor Carlos García,

I am also most grateful that he informed people of his new phone number and paid all his bills!

Well, in this specific case, I HAD already delivered it once. The issue was that our mail processers wanted the new tenant to pay $1.05 postage to forward the letters and wrote a snippy little note about it that I had to deliver along with the old tenant’s mail.

And yes, I sort of accidentally hijacked the thread by replying to the people talking about their mail.

Sorry :slight_smile:

(but in the interest of fighting ignorance, it’s good that some people are a little clearer on postal procedures) :smiley: