I notice you didn’t answer the question. Someone else has already speculated that you are Zedd’s sister. I’m guessing you’re his wife, and a cyclist. Cycling is cool. My love of road cycling has long outlived my faith in Mormonism. Stick around till summer and we can all chat in IMHO or the Game Room. In any event, please confirm or deny your relationship with Zedd.
FWIW, Zedd and velo, this is not the first time or the last that a thread on GD with the word “Mormon” in its title has turned into “Let’s Debate Whether the Church is True” because a joined-the-board-this-month Mormon has made it so. A link to a Jeff Lindsay site has never persuaded anyone of anything, ever. Let it go.
Okay, I’m confused by Zedd’s stream-of-conciousness-approach to language* (seriously, if you want to communicate, you might want to try writing logically)*…
But I loved getting two brilliant turns of phrase, one right after the other. Those made my opening this thread worth it.
True enough, psychonaut, but I would be prepared to feel more kindly towards Zedd if his position was that the “Israelites” who “discovered” the Americas weren’t Jewish/Jews, because they were Mormons or Christians or Zoroastrians or something.
Because then he might have a legitimate claim to complain when they were described as Jews - from the context of a sincerely held religious belief that they were not, in fact, Jews.
I agree that such a belief would not be evidence based, and that, in fact, no religious belief is, but I would be able to contextualise his reaction on the basis that he felt that a specific tenet of his faith about who the “Isrealites” were was being challenged.
As it stands though- that excuse doesn’t apply, and (to stretch a metaphor) he’s playing the “you hate Jews” card when the rest of us are playing an entirely different card game.
Zedd has failed to acknowledge that the offensive usage of “Jew” didn’t originate with Erdosain. Bartman points out that the annoying little brother Nephi refers to himself as a Jew. So according to the Book of Mormon, the Book of Mormon is a story about Jews.
If using the word “Jew” to describe Israelites in inherently antisemetic, then the author of 2 Nephi is antisemetic and Erdosain is merely quoting him.
I challenge anyone to quote where I accused anyone of anti-semitism. Don’t look, just right down what I said, then look and quote my response. If so, I will apologize and kiss erodsain’s round derrière.
Joseph Smith wrote that Nephi was a Jew, but not necessarily a descendant of Judah. Do I detect antisemitism?
Smith claims to have translated the potentially antisemitic phrases from Nephi’s gold diary. Was Nephi antisemitic? Or just a fictional annoying little brother?
