Debunk or confirm, please...[long coronavirus survival on Princess Cruise ship]

I’ve heard reports that 17 days after anyone had been on the princess cruise ship they found the virus. But I read where what they found were snippets of RNA from the virus, not the virus. That seems to me to be what you’d expect to find. The virus is going to start breaking down on surfaces and this is what would be left. Is this information in any way scary or unexpected? Does this suggest that perhaps the virus lives far longer on surfaces than what is though right now (24 hours on cardboard, 3 days on plastic and stainless steel)?

Speaking of that last part…I know people that are buying groceries and leaving them for 3 days in the car (non perishables). Is this overkill? I understand the virus can last on surfaces, but what is the likelihood that someone who is asymptomatic but infectious touches a box that I’m going to touch and transfers enough of a viral load to then make me sick? Is the 24 hours/3 day measurement an average or the extreme? If the extreme, what is the median?

Aerosol. There are conflicting reports about transmission through aerosol. The WHO and CDC both say this is not a primary means of transmission. There are other reports this stuff hangs in the air for hours. I get that it can hang in the air for a long time, but some people (friends) are talking like this is a super scary fact and we should all be really worried about it. It seems to me that unless I’m directly facing someone and having a conversation with them, or they sneeze or cough on me, I have extremely little to worry about when it comes to transmission though normal breathing.

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Colibri
Quarantine Zone Moderator

Yes, some of those tests on surfaces don’t prove there’s viable virus but you can’t make the that leap you are, that it’s meaningless and of course there’s just some broken virus sitting around.

Every health officer I’ve seen has seriously downplayed any infection concerns from food product packaging. Basically “wipe it down if it makes you feel better”.

The reports on airborne infections is mixed still. Probably some but not firmed up how much.

I heard an interview with a doctor who claimed that the aerosolized virus occurs around ventilators – ie that that ventilator pushing air in and out of the lungs is causing the virus to become aerosolized and that’s why the much more thorough PPE in hospitals is so key. I can’t vouch for this claim or the doctor who made it but would be interested to see some cities on that if anyone has heard of this claim.

There was a chart in a Medscape article this morning that listed much longer times, but it was for “coronaviruses” and not COVID-19 specifically.

ETA: Here.

ETA: Thisshould just link to the chart.

It was about more than just the cruise ship.

It still wasn’t descriptive at all. “3 questions about virus lifetime/viability outside of a body” would have been better.