AFAIK there is no jurisdiction that doesn’t limit rifles to five round magazines. If he had a high capacity magazine in his SKS - the normal magazine isn’t quick detachable - he was hunting illegally to begin with.
I’ve got an SKS, and as long as I take the bayonette off, I can hunt legally with it in Minnesota and Wisconsin using the 10 roung ‘stripper’ clips.
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I didn’t last that long. His first “John Doe” sent me over the edge.
How does a quadriplegic still hung? How does he hold the gun??
HUNT…sorry.
Beer during a hunt is to be drunk after hunting has ceased for the day and all the rifles are properly cased and not to be touched again that evening. It is most certainly not acceptable to me or any other hunter I know to drink while carrying a loaded rifle.
Having fun can include just liking to be in the woods, you know.
May be different in Wisconsin, but the magazine capacity limit in Pennsylvania is three rounds.
No kidding. I worked in retail in Wisconsin back in the early 80’s, and during deer season things were dead, except for some women folk shopping. What was really funny was during that time, male strippers (from the Sugar Shack in Lake Geneva) would come up and put on a show for the ladies. And the place was PACKED.
From what I’ve read so far, the man supposedly had no ammunition (haven’t read up on it since this morning, so… 
on that), but I bet if he did have ammo, he probably would’ve unloaded on the officers. What would stop him? He’s already nuts…
As far as me still putting a bullet in him. I don’t know, I wasn’t there. If I was angry and emotional enough, and no one was around… I hate to say it, but I may claim self defense, and just carry out the deed. It’s bad, it’s not a good thing to do, and call me what you want, but this man doesn’t deserve due process of the law. Even though it’s something I stand strong by (that everyone should), but like the constitution, I too can be a hypocrite.
Padeye: this site links to a .pdf extract that has the Wisconsin state firearms regulations WRT deer hunting, and I found nothing concerning ammunition capacity.
Eventually this shooter will come to me…
That show what YOU know. It’s the LAST thing you pack. If you pack it too early the ice melts and your beer gets warm. AND if it’s buried too deep nobody can reach it while you are driving. A fine hunter YOU’D make! :smack:
Wisconsin is using its hunters to help reduce deer populations by 90% in areas of suspected Chronic Wasting Disease. I heard a fellow on the radio who was real pleased because he likes venison. :eek: Now, this is a disease like Mad Cow about which the CDC says, “Conversion of human prion protein by CWD-associated prions has been demonstrated in an in vitro cell-free experiment, but limited investigations have not identified strong evidence for CWD transmission to humans. More epidemiologic and laboratory studies are needed to monitor the possibility of such transmissions.” Thanks, I’m skipping my chance at being a guinea pig this year.
First of all, there is a wide range of function for people with quadriplegia. Some may have no use of their upper extremities and some may have full use of their UEs except for fine motor movement of the fingers. And then there is everything in between.
Depending upon the functional abilities of the upper extremities a quadriplegic might use varying items of assistive technology. Some are very simple, like a rifle rest which allows them to rest the rifle in a Y stick mounted on the arm of the chair and a trigger crank which enables the trigger pull to be completed by a hand/arm motion instead of the finger. There are also sip and puff rifles which allows someone to fire with their mouth, much like driving a power chair with a sip and puff (essentially certain predetermined things happened based on a series of sips and puffs.) There are also deer stands which are essentially “cherry pickers” so climbing is not required.
In all cases, the person needs a safety eval by a Therapeutic Recreation Specialist to determine if they can use said assistive technology safely and then practice with them until they are safe. I think most states also have special requirements for getting the license, although I am not involved directly in that so I don’t know the details.
Most sports which we do as able bodied people can be adapted. Since leisure time increases significantly when someone sustains a cat injury it gets really important to figure out ways for them to stay active and do the things they love. Sports are a good way to do that. Wheelchair basketball is unbelievable to watch and then there is all the rest…quad rugby, water skiing, snow skiing, fencing…pretty much all of it.
You know its deer hunting season here in MA…when farmers spray "COW"on the sides of their cows, in bright flame orange! Every season there are a few deaths…usually because the hunter fires at something that he can’t see.
Or the hunterin maine (a few years back) who bagged a lady who was out hanging up laundry on her backyard clothesline…he thought he had bagged a whitetail! (He got off on a misdemeanor-that stupid woman shouldn’t have been in her backyard in huntin’ season).
I think a few things should be cleared up with this story.
Firstly, no one “argued with an armed man” in the woods.
The most updated story makes it sound like this happened:
A group of hunters was returning to a cabin they were staying at, the cabin had a deer stand on the property. The first group of hunters to return did not own the cabin or the land, the story makes it seem that this first group of hunters were guests of and knew the landowners.
The first group notices the man in the tree stand and radios the landowners, from the story it can be assumed the landowners tell their friends the man is not known nor welcomed onto the property or the deer stand.
For anyone who has gone hunting a lot, it isn’t like it’s the biggest deal in the world to see a hunter on your private property. It happens all the time intentionally and unintentionally. Depending on the size and location of your land and how well you post your property lines even the best intentioned hunter can accidentally wander on to your land. It also wouldn’t be the craziest thing in the world to see someone up in a pre-set tree stand of yours, it wouldn’t be considered polite but it’s also not that weird or abnormal occurence.
Anyways once the first group gets confirmation from the owners that the guy isn’t there as a guest they ask him to leave from a distance. The guy gets down and walks 40 yards at which point the landowners arrive. Then for apparently no reason the guy just opens up and kills six people, and then leaves.
Secondly I do think it is the exception rather than the rule that hunters go into the woods drunk and shoot indiscriminately anything they want. Firstly game wardens are amazingly good at their jobs and it’s not uncommon at all to get caught even when you don’t think you would.
The penalty for indiscriminately killing everything in the woods is pretty hefty and would probably mean you don’t get to legally hunt again for awhile and often they seize any guns you had on you at the time which can be a loss of thousands of dollars.
Anyways I’ve actively hunted in 40 U.S. States and have been on hunts and lead hunts with 1,000+ people in total. I have encountered thousands and thousands of hunters in the woods during my own hunts. I can say that I have seen a pretty large sample of the hunting population and I’ve only known of a few groups that hunt in the way Dark describes.
There are people that spotlight, hunt drunk, hunt illegally, but I feel very confident in saying that is certainly not what the general rule is.
Silly silly man don’t you know that ice just means less beer in the cooler? Shoveling snow into a full cooler saves both space and keeps it cool. Plus beer is better when pulled from a snowbank or stream after letting it sit all night.
I’m of a mind Mr. Vang might be a real good place to start.
Here’s an update on the SKS status.
Feh! Snow doesn’t cool, it insulates. And if there’s snow on the ground you bring blackberry brandy and mint schnapps, not beer. We can see how long YOU’D last in the Wisconsin woods.
I can get an SKS for a buck-eighty-nine? Sweet! (Short, accurate, ballistics similar to a 30-30? Sounds like a good brush gun.)
I’m a hunter from MA. I’d love to see you provide cites that prove any of your bullshit claims in that post.
The lady with the laundry was in Maine in 1988. From here:
Can’t speak to the rest of ralph124c’s claims. If I recall correctly, most accidental hunting deaths are self-inflicted. Obviously, not all.