That is the single problem I have with the WN movement. If it was just a bunch of “white guys” trying to live with other “white guys”, I’d say: Knock yourselves out.
But your goal of a “white” nation cannot be achieved without violence. There are many things that are worth fighting for in this world. The desire to not live in the same country with someone of a different skin color is not one of them.
Merely living with them isn’t the whole thing. It’s about preserving the entire race, and being able to let the white race live together, without outsiders invading, is necessary for this.
If the country was being “invaded by ousiders”, I’d be with you. And I’d support evicting anyone (white or non-white) who is here illegally. But, in the case of the US, you are talking about 10s of millions of non-whites who are here as legally as you are.
Find a way to achieve your goal without violence and I’ll support you. I won’t join you, but I’ll support your right to achieve your goal.
Same way you breed a good dog. Sterilze or kill the ones that don’t have the desired traits and breed the others. Females are valuable as breeding stock, but I only need a relatively few “pure” males to do the job.
You know I’m not serious, right…?
If you want me to answer, I will.
Assuming I’m serious and didn’t have the money and tech, I would do it the old fashion way. Trial and error. I don’t have to sterilize the women, just keep the unpure men from adding their genetic material.
That’s the key and rememeber I’m only looking for one trait, not a series of them. So it’s not going to be that hard to create a core of breeders.
Sure I’m gonna have some setbacks, but the power lies in the women not the men. I need the women, all the women ** at first.**
Remember, I’m gonna have some blue eyed women to start with. So I have them reproduce as much as they can, to keep the stock up. Then I experiment. Depending on what ratio each brown-eyed woman creates a blue-eyed child, I decide how many chances she gets. Four sounds good.
Eventually, I should have enough “pure” stock to allow me the option to sterilze all brown eyes.
does that answer your question?
Yes, it tells me that you are not particularly good at genetics. Any woman who is homozygous for a dominant allele will always produce a heterzygotic child who will not have blue eyes. Any woman who is heterozygotic for the recessive blue-eyes alleles will have a 50% chance of producing a homozygotic blue-eyed child. That percentage will not change no matter how many children she has. Each and every attempt at fertilization has a 50/50 chance of producing a child with blue eyes.
Your experiment leads to killing off the blue-eyed women in child birth, sterilizing all the homozygotic dominant women, and sterilizing any heterozygotic woman if the 50/50 odds don’t play out in a way that pleases you. Looks as if your society isn’t going to make it to 200 years, having rapidly run out of breeding stock.
by urbaNHunter
What kind of tax is this and why have I never heard of it before?
Sure if I’m on the other end of 50/50. While the percentage doesn’t change, the frequency is another matter and when I start my culling.
However if the odds work out, I’m the saviour of the great white race…and I never did say what percentage of blue eyed women I was starting out with.
You know you could just contributed that in your first post instead of …well you know…but thanks none-the-less, I guess i better I keep my plans for the “master-race” under wraps.
And sorry for the hijack…
I have already presented it – see post #423, this thread, where I directed you to another thread wherein I examined population figures all the way out to the year 2100, with absolutely no indication that whites were decreasing in number at all. If you don’t care to wade through all of those posts to see the data, then I will simply direct you to the U.S. Census Bureau, whence those numbers come. And just to save you some time, here’s the punchline:
WHITE
July 1 July 1 July 1 July 1 July 1 July 1
2075 2080 2085 2090 2095 2100
Population, All Ages 348,028 358,664 369,547 380,674 392,063 403,696
With all numbers in thousands. That means, by the year 2100, we’re looking at 403 million Whiteys still running around on the planet. Compare this to the current (July, 2003) estimates of ~231.1 million.
Now, would you care to explain how they will become extinct, instead?
I have a question for the White Nationalists here. Why don’t you guys just start your White colony by buying up a bunch of adjacent properties somewhere, probably in a sparsely populated area with low property prices. If you keep acquiring property in that area, it would eventually become large enough to encompass a whole town, and you would have de facto rulership of that town, no? Depending on the popularity of your movement, it could keep growing and growing until it reached a size that accomodated all the White Nationalists in the USA that wanted to be there.
White Town, USA. Have at it.
Did you mean “in the US” intead of “on the planet”? Your numbers are for the US only, right?
I think you need to look up “strawman”. I am stating my opinion: you folks haven’t a chance - not now, not ever.
I’m not concerned. I’m asking questions. And your answer is nothing more than wishful thinking.
I recall a similar “negotiated” attempt to form another country, oh, about a hundred and forty years ago or so. That one failed, as I recall. Do you honestly believe that even 50 million white nationalists would be allowed to secede from the U.S. proper today? You will not simply be “given” land by the U.S.
I will deny it. Show me some evidence independent of economic situation which shows that whites as a group are reproducing differently than any other group.
Well, the U.S. is on the planet, right? ;p
But yes, those are U.S. figures only, which means that’s only a portion of the total whites world-wide. I would suspect that the story will be similar in other predominantly white countries.
This is already being done 
First off, I know we have a chance, and I will not rest until our goal is completed, which it will be.
But let’s just hypothetically assume for a minute that we didn’t have a chance, and it is for naught. Does that mean we should stop fighting? Not in my book, I go down shooting.
History is full of people who ‘went down shooting’ and in alot of cases their deaths meant something, and it started something big and sometimes finished what they died for.
Even if we didn’t have a chance, there is no reason to surrender.
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History is full of people who ‘went down shooting’ and in alot of cases their deaths meant something, and it started something big and sometimes finished what they died for.
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For every one whose death meant something in that their vision was realized, how many millions (if not billions) of people died without their vision being realized?
Go right ahead and try to achieve whatever ideal state you’re trying to realize. Just make sure you’ve got all your ducks in a row.
Ahh! More an admirer of the Branch Davidians than the folks at Jonestown.
This would make more sense, of course, if anyone was actually threatening you, rather than you threatening violence over a cause that has been demonstrated to have no basis in reality.
You actually have signed affidavits showing that no Huns or Goths left any progeny among your ancestors as they passed by? You can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your Prussian forebears never mixed with their Polish vassals? That your Rhinelander ancestors never had any contact with the Roman legions at Trier and Aachen? Permit me to scoff. There are no more “pure” Germans than “pure” Irish or “pure” Ethiopians.
White U.S. male racist checking in.
I heard there were some self hating whites in here.
Sorry to see you made the trip for nothing. There are no self-hating whites in these parts.
I heard that too. Something about how there was a bunch of morons who didn’t quite get the fact that we all came from Africa anyway, and consequently didn’t realize that hating the descendants of African emigrants meant that they, in fact, hated themselves.
No, actually, you don’t know you have a chance, you believe you have a chance. Unfortunately, there are any number of major events in history which demonstrate that you do not, in fact, have a chance. To start with, you might want to consider the events leading to, and eventual outcomes of, the U.S. Civil War and WWII. Racial cleansing and purification pogroms sit even less well with most parts of the world in this day and age.
First, who are you fighting? Second, to what purpose do you “go down shooting”? Third, it doesn’t matter how you went down once you do…
And in a lot more, those lives were wasted on account of idiotic and unrealistic ideologies. You will, of course, fall into this latter category should you choose your “go down shooting” course. There is absolutely nothing positive to be gained here, except to a very small group who by lashing out at the rest of the world ensures their eventual defeat.
Nor is there even a reason to fight. Really, what are you fighting for? To keep your kin’s skin lily-white? To keep some nebulous and ill-defined (and undefinable) “white culture” alive? For Lebensraum? What?