That’s hardly new. It’s been popular for a long time in some quarters to think of Israel as being the US territory in the region, and for its conduct to be uncriticizable based on *US *patriotism, claims that its dangerous situation requires permitting some distastefulness, and playing the good ol’ Holocaust/antisemitism card. Certainly Netanyahu isn’t the first Israeli leader to cultivate that possessive sentiment in the US, either.
Oh yes, all the synagogues in Greenville emptied out to fill up Pirates stadium.
Has “refugee camp” been stricken from the lexicon to accommodate this self serving rhetoric?
I believe what the racist gollum meant by that was that they all look the same to him.
People are allowed to leave refugee camps.
No.
Do you have another mode besides asking dumb ass questions mode?
Nevertheless, the fact that the migrants are desperately trying to get to the US, where they know there is a good chance they will be detained in the camps, makes the situation markedly different from concentration camps as popularly conceived. Any examples of other concentration camps where the prisoners are flooding in voluntarily?
For now, given the term “refugee camp” and the term “concentration camp”, the most accurate is “refugee camp”.
They come to the country voluntarily. We put them in the camps. Any other examples of things you don’t understand the order of?
That’s a long list, man.
Apparently.
Needn’t work to convince me. I just sidled in to say he wasn’t mistaking Ocasio-Cortez for Omar. He’s probably dumb, just not…quite…that…dumb.
Sure and I believe Miller’s crocodile tears are about as real as Trump’s love for his fellow man. It’s just political grandstanding IMHO.
That said I do get how language can get emotive for some folks. I once was witness to a rather heated argument between two biology grad students, one of Jewish descent the other Armenian, over the use of the term ‘Holocaust’.
It’s just in this particular case I don’t believe Miller* any farther than I can throw him.
ETA: *Not Miller of course, who is a paragon of forthrightness ;).
I’d say the message is ‘if that could happen to early 1900’s Germany, it can happen anywhere. And by the time you hit Kristallnacht, it’s probably too late; you need to stop it sooner.’
Unfortunately the concept of just what it is that must never happen again is often too narrow, referring only to the ethnic group making the claim, implying that anyone else is on their own and cannot expect support from them. Genocide and ethnic cleansing, and lesser non-murderous policies and efforts, remain common in much of the world, with far too little effort to stop or prevent it.
Yes they are completely oblivious to what’s going on. That’s why they need white saviors right?
Fair enough.
I also wanted to clarify: I think that Jews do have exclusive ownership over the discourse of the WWII Holocaust, at least as it applies to their experience. What I meant was that they don’t control the discourse if someone refers to a detention center along the border as a concentration camp anymore than a Japanese survivor of internment controls discourse over internment camps. Atrocities are atrocities. Now when people say things like “This is exactly like Auschwitz” or “There’s no difference between the way the US is treating the migrants and the way Germans treated Jewish detainees,” that requires push back.
“Nevertheless”.
“Nevertheless”
Everything you wrote after this is just so much garbage. “Nevertheless”. So you acknowledge that these people are not allowed to leave. But but but “nevertheless”
So therefore they are not fucking “refugee camps.”
Stick your “nevertheless” up your ass sideways.
No, they need good, decent people who believe that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
So that leave you out.
Oh, I see (thanks).
That can’t be entirely ruled out.
As I’ve said before, this is why talking to Farnaby is a waste of time.
This board has an Ignore list. Just saying.