Rye bread, grilled
Cheese, melted: can be swiss or cheddar
grilled onions
ground beef patty
I maintain that the defining characteristics of a patty melt are the patty and the melted cheese on grilled bread. Meaning the onions can be committed and the types of bread and cheeses can change.
A friend insists that it isn’t a patty melt without onions, and it’s dicey if the bread isn’t rye.
While I agree a patty melt must have a patty and melted cheese to be even considered in the running, I’ve never had, and wouldn’t get one not on rye bread. Onions, i could go either way.
I think the onions are a default part of it. You can get a patty melt without onions and it will still be a patty melt, but you’d have to ask for no onions.
Yeah, if I order one without substitutions, I will be put off if there are no onions. In the least, it doesn’t feel “substantial” that way. But if I specify no onions (never!), it won’t automatically become something else. The rye shouldn’t be pumpernickel-dark.
I figure they can come with pickles and the condiments are usually mustard, but not necessary. Sometimes they’re served with the top piece of bread on the side.
Wikipedia is wrong. A patty melt isn’t a patty melt without grilled onions. I’ve never heard of such a thing. Without them, it’s just a cheeseburger on grilled rye.
Haven’t had one in years, but I’m sure it was always Cheddar. And the grilled (sauteed?) onions have to be CHOPPED, not sliced. So they moosh into the meat, cheese, and rye.
Perhaps. To me, the main sandwiches that come to mind that demand Swiss are burgers with mushrooms, and, of course, a reuben or rachel. Patty melts in my neck of the woods have always been cheddar or American. It seems like some in this thread are following the rueben blueprint and going with Swiss.
Neither of the two patty melts I have ever eaten had onions on them. That tells you nothing really, I’d rather have a real hamburger so I’ve never looked further into this matter. However, this would be the kind of dish I would think of as being prepared according to narrowly defined guidelines, otherwise it’s just a hamburger sandwich, the real hamburger’s wimpy little brother. If the dressing is on the side, and there’s no other condiment or topping on the sandwich then grilled onions make perfect sense, and after considering this question were I ever again forced to eat a patty melt I’d be quite disappointed if it was served without grilled onions.