Yeah, they took these out of the game.
On a different note, what they did to St. Cuthbert was practically criminal. First, they stuff one of my saints into the books as a pagan God (how the heck is he a Saint there, eh?) Now, they decided they needed a Lawful Neitral deity, so he’s it. nevermind the fact is credo is Lawful Good, his tenets are Lawful Good, and he always was Lawful Good. Apparantly, they just didn’t want to have more than two deities of any one given alignment in the Player’s Handbook. :rolleyes: Rather than just make a new deity, they twisted an existing one. Yes, I know it was done by several groups of people in successive stages. Now, however, they a Paladin-style crusader of the Gods whose not even Good anymore.
As I mentioned, they messed up all the deity alignments in Deities and Demigods.