Also, no one gives a fuck about a thread where some loon - who can’t even properly identify the party he’s railing about - is doing nothing more than regurgitating Boehner’s talking points.
You can’t possibly be serious. Your OP was trolling, not an attempt to create a genuine debate. There might be a debate here, but leaving out the entire context of the DHS funding votes makes your aim pretty clear.
Jesus, I wish there was a ‘like’ button I could use here.
They have voted four times against funding the DHS. Is that obstruction, or not? That’s the debate.
The House passed a bill. The Senate Democrats won’t even allow it to come to a vote.
When the fuck did you start making sense?
Ok. Then you won’t mind my referring to you as D’Analwort.
Technically, yes.
Any time someone votes against something, he is obstructing it.
This is why complaints about Democratic or Republican “obstructionism” over the past few years is largely nonsensical. Anytime a bill does not pass unanimously, it means someone tried to “obstruct” it.
Wait… D’Anconia trolls, and you’re SURPRISED? Shit, I haven’t seen a sincere post out of him YET. He trolls so hard that he has to hire a crew to demolish the bridges that spontaneously form above his house.
Have conservatives suddenly decided obstructing is a bad thing? Too late.
Why don’t you tell us whether you think it is or not and why? Please be sure to include the specific reason(s) that the Democrats oppose the spending bill, which as we all know must originate in the [Republican controlled] House.
It’s obstruction that literally all of the Democrats won’t bring it up for an up and down vote.
Why is that?
Have liberals suddenly decided it’s terrific?
You are wrong.
It’s officially been the Democratic Party since 1844.
Actually, it’s not all that sudden. The Senate has had more debate on amendments in one day than Reid allowed all of last year. Obstruction.
The Republicans put language in the bill that would cut off funding for President Obama’s immigration executive orders. If the Democrats let it get to an up or down vote, the bill will pass and go to the President, which will force him to either sign it, thereby blocking his executive order, or veto it, which will look bad and let people say he’s weak on national security. The Senate Democrats don’t want to put the President in that sort of position, so they’re blocking the bill from coming to a vote.
McConnell just announced that he would separate out the funding from the executive order block, so that might get the homeland security funding passed.
Do you have a link for this, because I would like to read it.
It’s horseshit, all of it. But the Democrats aren’t obstructing anything, yet.
People on both sides of the aisle have reasons to disagree with McConnell.
But this move is brilliant.
D’Anconia, this is the second thread like this you’ve started in the last few hours.
If you’re going to post in Great Debates, you need to bring a real debate to the initial post.
I’m moving this over to the Pit again but - again - it’s just a short rant. If you launch another thread in Great Debates like this you’ll be warned.
ETA: Heck, I’m even merging the two threads. They’re nearly identical.
Don’t do it again.
I won’t. But why don’t you shut down BG’s drive by links that don’t contain actual debates? Is there some sort of bias going on, here?