Actually, I think most of us here are good people regardless of our political persuasion and/or arguments among ourselves. I think it’s great when we reach some sort of rapprochement where we can set aside our differences and relate to each other simply as people. You might find it amusing to know that of the closest friends I’ve made here, most are liberals. The same goes for my offline life, as well.
There’s just something about this place that makes me come on stronger than I do offline, and it is probably because many of my opponents tend to come on stronger with me than they do in offline life. It’s a vicious circle.
Anyway, I’ve usually found myself trying to be relatively respectful and polite when dealing with you as I have found you to be among the more reasonable and thoughtful members of the other side.
Web Results 1 - 100 of about 242,000 for woman whose baby was taken from her because the father was convicted of a sex offense twenty years ago. (0.58 seconds)
From any article we can get the names;
Web Results 1 - 100 of about 11,500 for Melissa WolfHawk. (0.54 seconds)
Web Results 1 - 100 of about 806 for DaiShin WolfHawk. (0.75 seconds)
Web Results 1 - 100 of about 40,800 for John Joseph Lentini. (0.44 seconds)
Grand total for search time, 2.31 seconds, 295,106 results
3 hours - 2.31 seconds = 2.99935833 hours
2.99935833 hours / 5 minutes = 35.9923
In three hours you could have read 36 articles (ya’d have to be a really, really, REALLY slow reader though)
This is the part that pisses me off,
most of the articles are basically the same.
IF you had bothered to read any three of them, you would qualify as a expert on the case.
You’re are right, you do have an opinion,
o·pin·ion (ə-pĭn’yən) n.
[INDENT]1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof:[/INDENT]
No, it’s because of conservatives with opinions.
Example? Just one or two? PLEASE!
Or is this just another opinion?
Funny, looks to me like, REALITY, has opened a BIG ole can of whoop ass on you conservative types.
But ya had nuttin! and you admitted it!
Several searches? Revealed none of it?
Dude that’s not weak search-fu, it’s non-existent search-fu!
2.31 seconds, 295,106 results, 242,000 on the first try!
Here try one of these next time (Link ).
At the rate your goin’ your gonna be eatin’ crow till ragnarok.
But thanks to GIGObuster we’ve got a lot of new recipes for you to try!
Well DEFINITELY not your’s.
Well now that you got the link to all those cool search engines, maybe you can find some.
Yeah, FACTS,who needs ‘em? Always tryin’ to fuck with my superior opinion philosophy!
Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty fact!
You maniac facts! You blew it up! (my superior opinion philosophy)
Damn you! God damn you all to hell!"
2+2=4 that’s just your opinion.
I reject your reality, and replace it with my own!
2+2 now equals SPLUNGE!!! (?'s )
Since I think I know what your favorite news source is.
Things are beginning to make sense.
That’s EAT crow. Now clean your plate or NO dessert. (Oh, did I mention, you’re having crow for dessert?)
Vanquished schmanquished.
Your the one eating crow.
Me, I’m havin’ turkey,
with ALL the fixins,
and,
for dessert, I got pie!
A “refutable example” can prove “why this is so”.
Only if you reject reality, and replace it with something completely different!
NOW I AGREE WITH THAT! Personally, I think it’s time that the Democrats and Republicans went the way of the Whigs and the Tories! We need new political parties that aren’t out to screw the people and the aides, literally and figuratively. And I believe the Constitution allows that, because we no longer have Whigs or Tories - so maybe it’s time the Republicans and Democrats give it a rest, also.
So, in your research have you discovered when the word “liberal” became a BAD word?
Personally, I’m proud to be a LIBERAL AMERICAN with a strong belief in the Constitution and what it stands for. And just because I’m a LIBERAL AMERICAN doesn’t mean I stand with the Democrats OR the Republicans, both parties having failed or are failing the country we are proud of miserably (where’s George Washington when you need him!).
So, any clues when I became a bad person? Who votes for the right person and NOT THE RIGHT PARTY! Anyone else research the candidates?
The problem is minimal. It is simply a few small non-incidents being misreported and overreported by the Mainstream Liberal Media.
If you would like to skip the middleman, feel free to tune to the EIB Radio Network so you can be completely clear on what you should and should not think.
Shrugt. I read about all this in the LA Times, LA Daily News, Newsweek, and severl other places while it was happening. I don’t see them as non-incidents. It can be taken as the inevitable result of charging into something without worrying about the repercussions and details.
You fight with the army you have (even if they are undermanned and poorly equipped and you have no long range plan or exit plan). You refuse to consider that it may not be possible to simply take over right away and do it cheaply. You institute a backdoor draft so people can’t leave when their hitch is up. You promise them bonuses and then renege.
You short NYC out of promised money, and then give it to Cheney’s state (Wyoming). I think I have my facts pretty straight.
I am tired of the talk about the Liberal mainstream Media. For several years, the media was just Bush’s echo chamber. The NY Times, Wall Street Journal, and all the talking heads (Rush, Hannity, Fox News) were in Bush’s corner. So don’t tell me about the Vast Librul Media Conspiracy. Try another talking point.
Sorry to take so long to respond to your post. Although from the length of this thread it looks like the earth hasn’t exactly stood still since then…
I’d certainly agree with you on the “drug war” and incarceration in this country. The abusive patriarch allegation is strange, however; should we be benevolent to developing nations who want to ship their heroin to our country in order to boost their GDP?
I think that the parties *are * redefining themselves. The Rep. and Dem. parties of today bear little resemblance to those of 40 years ago, and they will change further. There was an earlier reference to the Dem. party as being comprised of splinter groups. That may be true, but I think it is equally applicable to the Rep. party as well. For example, I think that those who truly embrace the “Pro-Life” stance must be somewhat disconcerted to be in the same party as gun right extremists, or pro-war activists, or those favoring capital punishment. But they will hold their collective noses when they pull the lever, in hopes that their candidate will enact legislation that favors their position. I think that we are seeing parties reshape themselves with voters’ temperaments.
As far as the government micromanaging: I think that more of that takes place at the state level (see my comments below). But I do see the increasing urbanization of this country which will require more governmental regulation. I have a rather simplistic view as to political parties; I think that as a very general rule, rural areas favor Republican values, and urban areas favor Democratic values. This is chiefly because it is easier to take care of local problems locally when one knows everyone affected, so Republicans favor smaller government. When it comes to problems in the city, it really takes agencies to provide solutions; hence the Democratic support of social services. One has only to look at the gradual dismantling of FEMA, and the Katrina disaster to see the problems associated with making government smaller at the expense of the people.
Well, sometimes I’m half-witted, and sometimes half-assed, so this won’t be anything new to me.
The biggest problem I have with states’ rights is that I can see it leading to the increasing Balkanization of this country. States contribute and demand differently from the federal government, but we are all at least together by being Americans. I sometimes despair when people in one state act like problems in other states aren’t their concern. Again, Katrina is an example of that, but I’ve shot my mouth off about that in other threads, so I’ll just leave it there.
Again, see my comments above with respect to R. vs D., but my guess is that they do help people in urban areas more than conservatives. No cites, just what I have witnessed, so YMMV. In rural areas, it is likely to be reversed. And there is no way that certain adversities can be conquered *except * with the help of Washington.
Yeah, no comment here one way or the other except that it sometimes makes no sense to run against an incumbent if they are doing a good job and the challenger has nothing new to bring to the table except a fresh face.
I think the Pro-choice people might agree with you about the war decision. It’s the bed that they climbed into; and I sincerely hope that they can’t sleep at night because of it.
And your solution is—? You’ve lost me. If you’re saying that we shouldn’t have gone to war, I agree.
Saddam Hussein was a vicious man, and the world is better with him out of power. The question is whether the world is better now that we have taken on a war in Iraq, and the “lesser of two evils” excuse doesn’t cut it for me.
There are organizations that are devoted to reforming party policies to reflect new and changing views of the populace. If you feel so strongly, please join one and make your voice heard, but right now I hear you saying the same “I told you so” that you attribute to the Democrats.
Plynck: I may be saying the same I told you so as the Democrats, but I never justified the patriot act, I was always against it, as opposed to many of the Democrats that voted it into law.
As for the war, the problem is this, colonialism failed, the European powers saw this, and they removed themselves from their colonies en masse, what did America do? America took the reins of colonialism. We helped empower both Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. We are helping out Pakistan, but what happens if Musharraf is assassinated and one of bin Laden’s compatriots becomes the head of that nation? I see an endless cycle going on, I see a few elites fighting each other for supremacy of the world’s pre-eminent empire. I think we should back off and go back to being more isolationist. THe world is in such a state now that with the internet there will always be markets to do business in, we don’t need to force one into existance like we are doign in Iraq.
Both parties use the same big law firms, the same fund traders, the same PR firms. I fail to see how it’s actually any different other than what constituency they pander to.
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