The Democratic Party produced one of the greatest politicians in history…Bill Clinton. Immediately following him they can’t find a competant enough person to run for president. Everyone knows why Al Gore lost. Everyone also knows Howard Dean was their supposed savior until he acted like a complete psychotic on national television. Now they place someone who is most likely going to be excommunicated by his church, throws medals/ribbons away in protest, and not to mention his voting record. Is it that hard to find someone that’s not such an easy target? This should’ve been the easiest election year for Democrats in recent history. They’re running against a complete moron and are probably going to lose.
BTW…I was a Kerry supporter until I actually reviewed his voting record. The only excuse his voting record that I’ll accept is that someone was buying his vote. If they weren’t then he’s dumber than GW. Either way his voting record lost my vote.
If the Dems lose, then perhaps you should rethink who actually is the “moron” in the race. When the facts don’t agree with your assumptions, it’s often the assumption that is incorrect.
What facts are you talking about?? And, I think they’re both morons. My whole point is that the Democratic Party can not find anyone good enough to defeat GW, who many consider a complete idiot.
Maybe it’s because the Democratic party is more concerned about reasoning and intelligence and issues, and less about picking a candidate with a voter-friendly “aw shucks” veneer?
Not everyone buys a car just because it looks purty, after all…
What I meant by everyone knows why Gore lost is that he has no personality and should have come in on Clinton’s coattails and won in a landslide. Anyone that denies that is not reasonable. Gore barely lost, but it shouldn’t have been a close election to begin with.
Yeah right! This is a joke right??? Issues?? Have you seen his voting record? Not heard about it…have you actually seen it? And I don’t think Bush is that voter friendly. The idiot can barely complete a sentence with all the words pronounced correctly. Listen, I’m a democrat. I voted for Gore. I’m just sick and tired of the way the party is going. We are not headed down the right path. Reasoning? Howard Dean’s reasoning is why he’s not going to be on ballot come November and he was the Democratic frontrunner!!
Just do a search for it. There is plenty of talk about it from Vatican officials. And that should be a concern because it is very rare someone is excommunicated from the church and only for extreme circumstances. If he is excommunicated it will be an embarrassment to our country. I personally do not want him excommunicated because if he is then he has no chance of winning. That’s why it’s a concern. He will not win after being excommunicated.
Oh, some more things “everybody knows.” Great. Gore was working under the gigantic mobilization of the Republican base after the Clinton years, running against a man with almost no record to criticize who was promising huge tax cuts. The media was almost to a man out to get him, and hardly critical of Bush at all. I’d say he did pretty well considering those circumstances. If he had won, you wouldn’t be here complaining about him.
Or maybe you would, as long as someone told you to do so because “everyone knows” it.
Welcome to Great Debates, ghuff1. The onus is on you to back up your claims, I will not do your research for you. If there’s “plenty of talk about it from Vatican officials” how about you provide two examples?
I get so furshlugginer tired of these kinds of comments. Think what you will about Bush, but he’s not a dumbass, he’s not a moron, he’s not an idiot, he’s not a knukkle-dragging mouth-breather, etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum. *Anyone * who gets a Bachelor’s Degree from Yale and an MBA from Harvard is not dumb.
And spare me the crap about it being because of his father. Prestigious universites such as these don’t hand out diplomas just because you happen to have a prominent father (who by the way wasn’t even VP when GWB when to school).
Gore lost because the Supreme Court voted twice. He was a fairly liberal Democrat and yet he still won the popular vote, something difficult to pull off in a national election. He has very little to be ashamed of in that election. His final concession speech after the last court ruling was a model of bravery and eloquence.
Clinton himself triangulated to the right yet still only carried a plurality of the vote when he eked out a victory. He also lost Congress to the Republicans more than once.
I understand how Kerry can get under the skin of someone who likes bold, uncompromising, visionary politicians. What I don’t understand is how they can say Kerry will be a DISASTER, or already IS a disaster. Hello? WE ARE TIED WITH AN INCOMBENT PRESIDENT WHO IS OUTSPENDING US. For all the worry that Bush would use this “in between” time to pull way ahead, it looks like the race will remain pretty static until the conventions- in other words, it’s a perfectly normal election cycle.
The problem right now is not the candidate, it’s events, which are taking people’s focus away from where Kerry wants it (economy, economy, economy) and puts it where Bush wants it (who can manage Iraq, who’s decisive, who can keep us safe). This is a serious problem Kerry has limited control over- most of June will be about Iraq because of the June 30 government transition date.
I hope Kerry is using this time to quietly get together a series of policy specifics he can release at the time of the convention, so he can run on an actual platform of things he can do in the next four years, and contrast that to Bush, who will almost guaranteed have NO specific agenda at all.
Oh, he wasn’t VP then…was he the Director of the CIA at the time? I agree in part though. Those schools don’t hand out diplomas. He earned them along with all the other people that have them who aren’t qualified to be president. Just having a good education is, as GWB makes it, obviously not what makes a good president.
I can’t blame Clinton for the congressional losses. Economy? I think our economy is doing great and I hate to admit it but I like the tax cuts and think they’re a good thing. Bush scores points with me for one thing; I actually got a check from the government for $500 bucks from the tax cuts. No other politician ever put money into my pocket like that. And if Kerry gets elected he’s going to rescind the tax cuts. My paycheck looks better with Bush than Kerry.
Then why did you direct me to two websites that don’t mention anything remotely resembling excommunication? How’s about you provide me your working definition of excommunication.
