Democrats try to understand rural voters

I’m not familiar with every government regulation. A google search for job destroying government regulations, however, turns up many articles from those arguing that regulations are job neutral to those that point to things like minimum wage laws as regulations that destroy jobs. Here is one, however, that is more in the spirit of the type of regulation that Republicans say is bad but which benefits the public at large even if it does limit the way some people can operate their business.

Trump has proposed the EPA reinterpret how they enforce the Clean Water Act, allowing people to pollute water that will eventually flow into public water systems. Do you really think this is the kind of thing Democrats should be supporting in order to win back the rural vote?

As far as all the small businesses that have closed, I think that has a lot more to do with companies like Wal-Mart and Amazon that have outcompeted the mom and pop small businesses than with government regulations.

I’m sure it was a horrific message to the horse-and-buggy industry when automobiles got up and running. A once-abundant reservoir dried up then, too. The country moved on.

I think its more about white privledge than anything. When black people were losing their jobs it was ‘pull up your bootstraps’. But now that rural whites are losing their jobs (in manufacturing, mining, transportation, etc) its a national emergency that requires compassion.

Same with drug epidemics. When blacks in the inner city suffer the answer is curtail the bill of rights and send in militarized police officers. When rural whites have a drug epidemic the solution is narcan, diversion courts and politicians trying to solve the problem, rather than just contain it to the bad neighborhoods so it doesn’t affect the larger society.

It just verifies that we are a multi class society and some people’s problems are more important than other people’s.

More jobs were lost in the service sector than have been lost in mining, but nobody cares because service sector jobs are held by women and non-whites, while mining jobs are stereotypically jobs held by rural white men.

Regulate them off their farms? They’re losing their farms because of the moron they voted for cratering crop prices because “Jina” is bad.

It’s more like “Farmers: YOU CAN’T PROVIDE AFFORDABLE FOOD WITHOUT MASSIVE GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION”. If you’re going to vote based on other people getting stuff they may not deserve, get the fuck off the government teat and find a real job.

While not all rural voters are farmers, Elizabeth Warren is doing something real for farmers: Elizabeth Warren Calls for a National Right-to-Repair Law for Tractors

Apparently manufacturers like John Deere have maintained a legal monopoly over repair facilities for their farm equipment, making repairs expensive, and hard to obtain in a timely manner.

And this is on top of her plan to attack consolidation in agriculture-related industries:

So, what is the GOP offering to small farmers that competes with that, either in practical effect, or in insight into the problems that farmers face?

Wow. Can you not understand how incredibly bigoted, condescending, and generally offensive that paragraph is? Thinking like that is why Trump is POTUS.

The data does show, according to Nate Silver, that the best statistical indicator of Trump support was frequency of google searches for racist terms.

And why would anyone be surprised by this? The things that made Trump stand out in the 2016 race were his years and years of unrepentantly spreading a bullshit racist conspiracy theory (i.e. birtherism) and hateful language about immigrants and Muslims.

A gift to the Russkie troll farms. Explains why I saw so much racist crap and Bernie Bro madness in my Facebook. How hard would it be, after all, to subvert Facebook’s algorithms to feed racist shit to racists without alerting the rest of us?

Attempting to justify bigotry is also bigotry.

Obviously. Not sure what you’re disputing.

Not disputing a goddamn thing. Stating that you apparently endorse that other poster’s anti-rural bigotry.

Disliking racists isn’t bigotry.

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I was talking about the statistics of support for Trump, and its correlation with statistical indicators of racism. And how this shouldn’t be surprising, considering the many years of racist statements by Trump.

In response to a post responding to a post characterizing white rural voters. It wasn’t characterizing Trump supporters. It wasn’t characterizing racists. The fragment quoted was characterizing white rural voters.

Then there was some broad-brushing that I think should generally be avoided. If he was just criticizing that broad-brushing, then I misread it.

Agreed iiandyiiii that it might be a broad brushstroke overstated, and a bit overly simplified, but not bigoted.

Would you claim that racism (even if implicit), fear/resentment of “the other”, and fear of decreasing relevance and power relative to various “others” play no factor in rural whites support of Trumpism?

NO I do not think that most rural voters explicitly want “want the clock turned back to a time where the ‘other’ could legally be barred from working in their shops, living in their neighborhoods, or dating their daughters” but without a resonating more positive vision to attach to blaming “the other” has been a successful sales pitch.

And you are completely right in your assertion that messaging that is heard as dismissing them as soon to be completely “irrelevant” (even when not stated as clearly as BobLibDem did) drives Trumpism strongly.