I fail to see the relevance of your example. For my example, it has already been done for other things, so what stopped them from doing it this time? I fail to notice any examples of your “coup” scenario in the past.
Elected Democrats went on the record as supporting the “rights” of illegal aliens over U.S. citizens. Elected Democrats knew they could hold government funding hostage over any number of current political issues, but elected Democrats CHOSE this particular issue. According to Democrats, the “rights” of illegal aliens are more important than the needs of U.S. citizens. While those elected Democrats enjoy some vocal support of many of the Democrat collective, biased news media talking heads, and bored internet posters, I’m not sure this boneheaded political move is going to translate into pro-Democrat votes, or more Democrat seats.
I can see why some Democrats would like this issue to go away, but other Democrats seem to think that public support for illegal aliens over U.S. citizens will actually result in more votes for Democrat candidates. Time will tell.
Just for the record, I don’t think you needed to end your post with a question mark. A period would probably have been more accurate. 
You just used the word Democrat 11 times in this post. Do you think that being repetitive makes what you write more persuasive? It does not.
87% of the public thinks that those in the DACA program should be able to stay in the country and should not be deported. Aligning yourself with a viewpoint that only 13% of the public supports does not seem to be a smart political move. I guess we will see in November.
The “nuclear option” involves a rule change. It eliminates the filibuster. It’s a bit of a crossing-the-Rubicon moment though, and both parties hesitate to do that because they’d like some power when they’re in the minority. That’s what’s stopped them from doing it this time, and every time in the past when it was considered to pass legislation.
I see. So the Republicans cared more about power than they did about US Citizens?
What rights were they supporting that US citizens dont have? The right to live here?:rolleyes:
In 2013 the GOP shut down the governmnet over the fact that the Democrats wanted to let people have health care.
I would assume he meant the right to a functioning government. Cue the “what’s that?” jokes.
We havent had one of those since the GOP got control of The House.
DACA has 87% support. Please proceed.
That’s certainly one (very slanted) interpretation. If they really cared about exercising power, then the nuclear option would be the way to go. It’s the fact that they’d like to maintain some semblance of bipartisanship and regular order in the Senate that they haven’t.
Like they did for the recent Supreme Court nominee?
So, propaganda, then.
Yes, low information voters are people that do not pay much in depth attention to politics. They may see some headlines, they may watch a bit of news, but they don’t look into the deeper details of policy. There is nothing wrong with a person like this, it is just that they are in fact, more easily swayed by soundbites and propaganda.
Your arguments would appear persuasive to them, and that is a problem. But soundbites and strawmen are actually not a useful form of debate.
One option changes the senate rules slightly in accordance with the rules of the senate.
The other is an unconstitutional and most likely violent coup.
Really, you don’t see any difference between the options?
You can count to eleven. Did you think that will somehow be persuasive? Silly question, of course you did. Do you possess some internet posting authority that allows you to dictate which nouns, pronouns, adjectives, verbs, etc. are permitted to be used in internet posts?
Elected Democrats chose to support the “rights” of illegal aliens over U.S. citizens, and chose to shut down government funding to prove it. Does that make those elected Democrats bad people? Of course not. Those elected Democrats simply forgot who they were elected to represent. Will the voters, legal voters not illegal aliens, chose to make this elected Democrat action (non-action?) a major reason to vote/not vote for Democrats in the next general (AKA midterms) election? If the Democrat collective repeatedly claims that the elected Democrats action didn’t happen, or doesn’t matter, shouldn’t matter, or will be forgot, does that mean that the Democrat collective’s dream will come true?
Hooboy.
DACA has 87% support. In this highly polarized time, it has 87% support. Do you really think this is the election winning issue that you are imagining it to be?
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Hahahaha. First you insult potential voters by calling them “low information voters”, and then further insult them by saying they are easily swayed. Swayed by someone other than yourself, perhaps?
Can you - Defend your Senators holding the budget bill hostage - without insulting the very voters you would need if your intention is to change the majority party in the U.S. Senate?
DACA has 87% support. You are banking everything on a position that only 13% of the public supports. That is unwise in my opinion, but please by all means go ahead with that strategy and see how it works out.
What specifically has 87% support? That “something should be done” with illegal aliens? That illegal aliens should be given amnesty? That illegal dreamer alien citizenship should be placed ahead of all of the legal aliens who are attempting to become U.S. citizens?
Then you agree that in 2018, elected Democrats chose to shut down the government to promote illegal aliens.
Read the poll. I already cited it, here’s another chance to look at it:
“According to the survey, almost 9 in 10 respondents — 87 percent — said they believe that the so-called Dreamers should be allowed to remain in the U.S. if they meet certain requirements, such as working or going to school.”