Oh good grief. Now I imagine South park and the “night of the gingers” 
Pfft.
Right now the Democrats have the high ground. “We don’t point crazies at our political opponents! We’re good people!”
And doctors who perform medically necessary late-term abortions still live under constant threat of death.
And the country seems happy to compromise between wimpy moderates & hardline conservatives.
There’s no natural law that puts a country’s political center of gravity in a peaceful, sane place.
And I don’t expect we can always just peacenik our way out of danger like Francis of Assisi.
I think it’s time to start arming Hispanics & training them to defend themselves, 'cos that’s who’s going to get targeted bigtime in the coming civil war.
She certainly intended to use firearms against someone, hence the “second amendment” reference. If not democrats/leftists/socialists, who then?
Hey, hurled with the proper ballistic trajectory, a hand-dipped candle can really leave a mark!
Jeeze maybe he’s right. Still sketchy info but someone tried to kill a congresswoman in Tuscon tonight and the news is saying it might have been politically motivated. :(. 6 dead according to the news and a congress member shot in the head.
-XT
Uh, you think? Maybe read the linked thread in the OP and figure out wtf we are all talking about here.
You believe she was suggesting that her followers should consider launching an ARMED REVOLUTION and you think the chief problem is that she worded her call to violence POORLY?
The AMERICAN remedy for a politician who goes “so clearly against the will of the people” is to vote that politician out of office at the next election. Speculating about circumventing democracy through violence runs counter to the very principles this country was founded upon.
Sorry, reading this on an iPad and didn’t notice the thread linked in the OP was about the same event. My apologies. Carry on.
-XT
I was just wondering what exactly you might have thought we were talking about, having not made the connection between the two events.
I figured it was the standard Der Trihs rantage and just wanted to comment that even paranoids and fanatics have a point sometime.
-XT
He’s been quite open about the fact that if push comes to shove, he’ll murder innocent bystanders to sustain his own life.
Oh, good grief! She didn’t call for the launching of an armed revolution. She suggested that the time may be coming when an armed revolution would become necessary in order to take the country back from a government that had begun deliberately defying the will of the people. And the 2nd Amendment is central to the ability of the people to pull that off.
Get a grip, will ya?
Can’t tell you how jealous I am of that…
The poor right winger nut jobs on this board don’t want us to jump to any unfair conclusions that just because some anti-Semitic, Limbaugh listening, immigrant hating and gold hoarding schizophrenic assassinates a federal judge by accident and a bunch of others at a Democratic Congresswoman’s meet the people event that their constant references to the second amendment, targeting their enemies, reloading and let’s bomb the New York Times has anything to do with it.
They are not prepared to call for toning down the rhetoric in their own ranks, but they want us to tone down our condemnations of their rhetoric.
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” ^ Suskind, Ron (2004-10-17). “Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W. Bush”. The New York Times Magazine. ISSN 0028-7822. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1255665600&en=890a96189e162076&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland. Retrieved 2007-05-22.
The reality is that violence is a tool the far right loves to talk about as a viable option while the not so far right begs the whole country not to conclude that calling for violence sometimes leads to violence.
Yes.
And people can be misled into thinking that’s what’s happening. That merely having a Democrat in the White House is defying the will of the people.
No, I’d say it would have more to do with a renegade congress whose leaders blatantly exhort their membership to defy the will of the people, followed by their doing so. After all, it’s Congress that has a 16% approval rating, not Obama.
The sad thing is that Der Trihs is an over-the-top radical, with many outrageous beliefs - and the extreme right-wing has over the years, against all odds, labored diligently to make him **almost **seem to be a reasonable response. He’s one guy, but there are too many on the right-wing, some elected to office, who are his funhouse-mirror reflection.
I think the Giffords shooter is simply schizophrenic, not that it matters, because no amount of evidence would make either the left or the right believe he’s “one of them.” That, however, doesn’t excuse the inflammatory right-wing rhetoric of the past several years. “We came unarmed-THIS TIME.” “The tree of Liberty needs watering.” crosshairs, reloading, and the ridiculous spectacle - and it WAS ridiculous - of numerous ppl carrying rifles at political protests. Don’t try to tell me there wasn’t an undercurrent of intimidation to that, because it was damn near overt.
Fuck it, I’m gonna get drunk. More sensible than ‘discussing things’ on the internet.
/Reading ‘discussions’, on the other hand, is immensely entertaining.
//Please carry on.
Or, you could just wait two fucking years for a new election.
Face it, there’s a large chunk of the right wing in this country doesn’t believe in democracy. If they don’t get what they want at the ballot box, they start stroking their Glocks.
I’m not the one fantasizing about violently overthrowing the legally elected government.
Aren’t they all ? Still, for the true Wisdom of the Commons experience, try Yahoo Answers…
You’re a piece of fucking work, you are. You and your ilk are not the only members of “the people” in this country. You don’t get to define “defy the will of the people” as “do something I don’t like”.
Congress is elected by the people. The President is elected by the people. All the people, not just those parts of it that you deem theologically correct.
You’re part of the people; I’m part of the people, Der Trihs (heavens help us) is part of the people. We all have a say in what Congress does.
So knock off this silly horseshit that “the will of the people” is some monolithic viewpoint that, coincidentally enough, just happens to agree with you.