DeSantis can't win the GOP nomination or the general election in 2024 {How Trump plays into this is allowed}

Well isn’t that rub? Who are there more of?

And I’ve interacted with plenty of “liberals” who don’t really give a shit either. Liberals aren’t a single bloc of voters who care about the same things. There were more than enough liberals who voted for Trump or abstained last time because they didn’t like specific social issues

Seems pretty even at times, but we’ve done well the last three election cycles.

And plenty of people do. We’re called “Conservatives”. We’re both called citizens who care about others, watch politics, and vote for the best candidate.

Not to be confused with “Republicans,” lol!

I don’t necessarily disagree with that…

Well, that’s true of anything to which a name can be applied.

No, see, that’s an oxymoron. If you vote for Trump and call yourself a Liberal, a drone flies up to you and revokes your Liberal Card within 3 minutes.

Yep. The same thing happens if you vote for Biden and call yourself a Conservative.

Absolutely anyone, literally does not matter who the candidate is. To me that is, I do want someone other people will vote for.

Yeah, I actually have no issue with principled Conservatives other than simple disagreement on most, but not necessarily all, issues. Trumpists, fascists, white supremacists, and MTGs–not so much.

I think a true Conservative could vote for Biden over a Trump in the interest of the country.

Btw, Biden ain’t actually all that Liberal.

Yes, I would vote for anyone on the Democratic “bench” right now.

I will respectfully disagree. In the interest of the country, we need a competent leader right now. Recent global developments, e.g. Ukraine, Taiwan, suggest we need a stronger leader than Biden. I don’t like Trump, and I hope he’s not the GOP nomination in 2024. I guess what I’m saying is that Biden scares me more that Trump does.

How is Trump a more competent or stronger leader than Biden?

Trump is literally the most incompetent leader the USA has had in a century or more. And he never displayed anything that could be considered strength unless you consider kowtowing to authoritarian dictators strong.

I hope Biden and Trump aren’t our choices for 2024. I guess in order to discuss this much further, we would have to know what each of us means by ‘competent and stronger’. Or dangerous.

…Senate Bill 7066, for starters.

What parts of Senate Bill 7066 are you referencing? I’m willing to discuss in a friendly manner. Thanks

…the bit that overruled the will of the voters when they passed Amendment 4.

If you want to be unfriendly, that’s fine with me.

How about we’re not friendly or unfriendly. Like a coworker.

That looks like a sketchy reference. Show me the text from the actual bill.

Holy Cow. I thought Biden has been masterful at those very tricky issues.

…it’s the Brennan Center for Justice. It isn’t a sketchy reference at all.

You’ve cited the original bill. If you want to read the text then read the actual bill. If you think Sweren-Becker got something wrong, then feel free to show me what that was.