I like some of the camisoles, too, but when I try them on they make me look pregnant.
I’m hoping this stuff is still in fashion when I actually do start having kids!
I like some of the camisoles, too, but when I try them on they make me look pregnant.
I’m hoping this stuff is still in fashion when I actually do start having kids!
Ford Models’ plus size division starts at size 12 (12+ - http://www.fordmodels.com/main.cfm)
I’m now a misses size 14 and I sometimes do plus size modeling in local stores. I mainly do Elisabeth & Talbots; no Lane Bryant yet.
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Actually, most of the Nordstrom’s ones don’t look too bad. If you’r a bigger girl that has a pretty flat stomach (not totally flat, but you know what I mean: not all globby and rolly), most of them wouldn’t look bad. OTOH, if you’ve got two big tires sitting on your midsection, those will def just make you look pregnant. I mean, I’ve got a few halter’s from Lb that I wore over the summer that have a bit of fabric criss crossed on the stomach and jaggedy hem at the bottom. That said, I don’t have a big rolly tummy, so I can pull it off (or so I’ve been told). In fact, it just makes my tummy look a bit smother.
But yeah, the type of gut makes a world of difference in the case of shirts like that. Of course, that one I linked to from LB originally would just look atrocious on anyone with any type of body for 110 lbs.
That’s a British size 20 DiosaBellisima, which is an American size 18…and yes, I’d have to say that the model looks a little bigger than that.
To get your US/UK dress size equivalents, take 2 from the UK number, to get the US size. Admittedly it doesn’t always work out like that- I take a UK size 6/8 in trousers, yet I somehow manage to fit into GAP size 0 jeans.
British sizes start at a 6 (US 4), and they’re hard enough to find in most shops- most have a range of size 8-16 (US 6-14), at a push UK size 8-20 (US 6-18). We don’t have misses, junior or women’s sizes either- just tall and petite ranges. Topshop is considering bringing in a range of UK size 4 (US 2), but there isn’t seen to be the demand for it in most high street shops.
This isn’t actually TOTALLY accurate.
My kilt is a UK size 10. I wear a Canadian size 6 and a US size 4. I’ve always understood that you should subtract 4 from a UK size to get the Canadian equivilant. And Canadian sizes are one size smaller than US sizes.
Just to further confuse things, I wear a French size 36, which is about a Euro size 34, but then I wear an Italian 40 (Benetton).
Shit, I dunno - the model linked in the OP is a big girl. How’s that?
**irishgirl **, then I’d like to definitely say that there is NO WAY that girl is a US size 18. Not on her skinniest, foodless day. Not if she starved herself for a week would that woman be any where near a size 18.
Yeah. The hair is a little weird and obviously the outfit is not something I would wear for a trip to the grocery store, but I don’t think she’s grotesque or ugly by any means.
I guess I may be the exception, but I certainly would rather see Lane Bryant models who looked like the women who are supposed to be wearing those clothes.
I think one of the reasons people find large people so repellant is just that we’re not used to seeing them in contexts where they’re treated as normal or attractive. Therefore, when we do see large people, it’s shocking and unfamiliar. For many people unfamiliarity leads to discomfort.
mrs jjimm says a UK size 20 is a US size 16. And she knows all about this sort of thing.
Well I think she’s totally hot and working it to the max. Plus, I’d love to be her at that moment. “Let’s see… here’s a hip fashion crowd who regards anything over size 2 as repellant… but they’re more or less obligated to applaud anything Gautier puts out… and it would be social suicide to make fun of the fat girl at this moment… I can pretty much swing my flab any way I want, take a dump on the front row, murder three of the other models, and they won’t say a damn thing. Go me!”
I’m pretty much the same size and shape (and I think I’m hot) and I’m nowhere near a size 20. Probably more like a 28.
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mischievous, for a comparison.
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I don’t have a dog in this hunt. Based on what I recall from a doper picture thread, girl, you are not a fat ass. I thought you looked great.
That is all, carry on.
It’s hard to tell, because she’s got that hip thrust out and you’re sitting, but yeah, you’re probably close to the same size. She’s more pear-shaped and you’re more appley (or perhaps hourglassey, I can’t tell from that pose), but I could see you wearing the same size clothes in most stuff. Both you and the model are a bit bigger than me, and I’m an hourglassey 22. I wish I thought I was hot, but I honestly don’t, simply because of my weight.
(And, I have to ask, is that a backdrop or a real place? 'Cause I so want to live there someday!)
Anecdote: A few weeks ago when Madrid announced they wouldn’t be showing models with a BMI of less than 18, some fashion guy was interviewed and said, “If this catches on, eighty percent of my models will be out of work.”
Dumbass. Not if they eat something. Sheesh.
It’s a friend’s apartment - and that’s not the half of it. That woman has a mean metal fetish, and has odd bits of bone and rust from 20 years of collecting.
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I’m gonna go on record here and say that the model in the OP (minus the hair) is hot, mischievous is hot, and based on the linked pic in her profile, whynot is hot, too.
Whatever will contribute to helping girls realize size 0 isn’t the only thing to be, I’m for.
But I am also conflicted, because by reading this thread I found out plus size models start at size 12. I am a size 12. I’m about 5’10" or so. I’m not skinny as a rail by any means, but I would not consider myself to be ‘plus size’ at all. I wear a medium at Gap for chrissakes. I do admit this fact makes me feel sort of bad. But also, its hard as hell to find size 12 pants, they are always out! (it also doesn’t help I need long or extra long pants) I just figured I was average and normal. But the fashion world is skewed skinny.
But I think models should be more like size 6-10. For a lot of younger girls, size 6 is a healthy size. Still small depending on height, but not emaciated. Size 0 is far from average. And for all those tall-ass models, its unhealthy. I’ve seen pro-anorexia websites and stuff with my own eyes and it’s a problem that needs to be stopped. And I think using more average sized models more often will help.
The only message being communicated by the designer here is “look at ME!” - that’s what fashion shows are entirely about.
Why not have every body type represented on the cat walk? You could have size 0 girls, size 10 girls and size 20 girls. EVERYONE needs clothes. And I don’t know any woman, big or small, who wouldn’t love to wear clothes that are designed to enhance her figure.
It’s ridiculous for designers to insist on size 0 models when their potential market is so much broader than that.
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That was the longest 7 months of MY LIFE, I tell y’all.
The clothes on the mannies isn’t quite that, Diosa. Stores that still have the older headless mannies have them in a size 10-12. This means that you always have to put a 14-16 on (hopefully, unless those are sold out) and then pin and twist and fold so the fabric lays right. I believe that some of the new stores have new snazzy marble mannies that are an LB 14-16 so they actually fit properly.
To be a Lane Bryant model, you have to be a size 12. Yes, this means that the models can’t actually wear off the rack LB stuff. Occasionally (around the holidays, for example), LB will expand their sizes online to include 10/12 and then up to size 34.
I can’t wear the vast majority of tops from LB because they’re too big. If they’re stretchy, they fit over my boobs nicely but are far too baggy everywhere else (I’m a 36G). If they’re a fitted shirt, they’re probably too tight in the boobs but then still swim everywhere else. Because I have a badonkadonk, I can sometimes wear their pants, but usually the waist will gap badly at the back (because of said badonkadonk).
Last Christmas, if you went to LB for the after Holiday sale, you saw all the mannequins wearing these bright orchid tshirts that had a woman’s silhouette and “get it now, guilt free” on the front and back. Those shirts, if you noticed, did not have to be pinned back to fit. The tag said 10/12. After the sale, I got like, 5 of them for free because no one else who worked there could wear them. They make good workout tees.
Man, maybe I should start a lame “Ask the” thread about working at a plus sized store.
Let me do a little preemptive strike before the boys get in on it: how you doin’? And CITE?
I never get to do that because I’m a heterosexual female, damnit! Now my life is complete.