Okay. So Felicia remembers when “Zach” was “Dana.” It’s explicit, now.
So let me just say: Neener neener neener, all you doubters of my outlandish theory.
Neener neener neener.
Unless y’all think she’s just yanking his chain, of course.
'cept you said the baby was intersexed and we’ve had no confirmation of that. My interpretation of what happened on tonight’s episode is:
Mary Alice abducted Zach (formerly Dana) from the hospital where she was employed as a nurse (and worked with Felicia). They raised “Zach” as their own until a private investigator discovered them, and they killed her. Felicia was letting Zach in on all the details. So yes, Zach = Dana but not quite the same way you proposed.
Good episode!
Okay, I love Felicity Huffman, I have ever since Sports Night. But I am getting damn sick and tired of Lynette. This woman is so clueless it’s not funny. Look, lady, there’s a reason no one wants to babysit your little terrors. And if you don’t believe in spanking, why threaten your children with spanking? :smack:
Bree is wonderful. She was firm, she warned the little brat, and she promptly punished him when he defied her. And for Lynette to accelerate her “discipline” by threatening to march her misbehaving trolls over to Mrs. Van de Kamp’s for punishment was ludicrous. Lynette needs SuperNanny.
I don’t think Zach is intersexed. Dana can easily be a boy’s name, in fact, I’ve known two male Danas in my life. I think Zach was kidnapped as a baby. That’s why everyone changed their names, although I’m not sure if Paul did.
What is up with Gabby and Carlos? Why are they still together?
Poor Susan. Mike is exactly right…now we know where she gets it from.
And although I think Bree is a better mother than Lynette, I think she handled Andrew badly. She’d been telling him over and over that she loved him and wanted him to be happy, then when she finds out he might be gay, she bolts. Not good, my dear.
I’m glad I’m not the only one sick of Lynette.
Isn’t using spanking as a threat pretty much the same thing as actually spanking, only with the added problem of not going through with your threats? IANAParent, but that just seemed dumb.
That’s just it. Lynette is ineffectual as a disciplinarian, to the point that all her sons had to do when they stole from Mrs. Landingham was apologize to her.
I’d be interested to learn more about Lynette’s mother, since it was revealed she beat Lynette and her sisters. It seems to me that Lynette is erring just as far in the other direction. Snapping your fingers at your son while he’s plucking flowers off their stems, then not punishing him when he’s ignored you three times, is asking for future trouble. And you could tell when the boys were dangling their toothbrushes over the toilet, with an evil “Whatchoo gonna do about it, Mom?” gleam in their eyes, that they were on to her.
If she didn’t want to spank them, then whoever dropped the toothbrush in the bowl got to brush their teeth with it.
Yeah, Lynette bugs me. She knows her kids are bad, she should be grateful that anyone would watch them at the last minute. When Bree admitted to having spanked one of them she could have just said “we don’t believe in spanking” and accepted Bree’s apology and left it at that. Bree probably wouldn’t have felt compelled to make further comments had Lynette not been so indignant about it. She knows her kids are holy terrors but no one else can comment on it. But she was way over the line when she made the comment to Bree about her kid. At least they did have Lynette apologize first and not Bree.
I don’t think Bree was bing unaccepting of Andrew’s possible gayness. I think she just had no idea how to handle it and thought it better to back off.
Susan’s clumsiness has become too cartoonish. Her kicking out and kicking the manicurist in the face isn’t a normal reaction. If anything she would have pulled her foot back away from the manicurist and put it on the floor in order to turn and face her mother. They are turning her into I Love Lucy and I can’t stand Lucy.
Gabrielle and Carlos deserve each other. She brought everything that happened to her on herself, I can’t sympathize with her or feel sorry for her. The thing that bugs me so much about her is that it isn’t enough that she ruins her and Carlos’ lives but she has to drag a young kid into it. She’s using the lawn boy and now she’s going to be pregnant with his kid. I’d really like to see her get arrested for statutory rape, go to jail, have the baby in jail and have lawn boy and his mother get custody of the kid. Gabby wouldn’t care about the kid anyway.
What annoys me about the Gabby storyline is that I sincerely doubt they’ll take the realistic route of having her discover her pregnancy and get an abortion.
No, they’ll have her discover it then have a massive change of heart and suddenly she’ll really want the baby even though she has never wanted one and then she’ll miscarry and it’ll change her entire life! Or something along those lines.
I don’t watch the show often. I’ve seen maybe three episodes and a few minutes of some others, but I didn’t see that in Gabby’s situation at all. When they announced that “In a week, she’d be pregnant” it pretty much hit me that it wouldn’t be Carlos’s kid. As desperate as he is for a kid, and as much of an asshole as he’s been recently, I wouldn’t put it past her to have the kid and then reveal the real father to hurt Carlos. This would also get them around the whole issue of considering an abortion. Keep the baby out of spite because you know how much it will hurt him when he finds out it isn’t his.
I just don’t see them dealing with abortion on the show. Still, you never know. I was suprised they showed spanking, which is pretty controversial these days, and I wonder if they’re planning on breaking even more rules.
Enjoy,
Steven
ABC is owned by Disney, a wholesome family company. There will be no abortion. As far as the spanking goes, I thought they handled it very well. Bree warned him the cookies were hot, tried to distract him with other food, and told him if he didn’t stop he would get punished. Then, after he knocked the tray down, she gave him four or five light whacks on his bottom.
However, if Carlos is gone for eight months, then is it possible Gabby might deliver the baby early and put it up for adoption and no one is the wiser?
They might do that, but I think it would be incredibly out of character for her. She’s obsessed with her physical appearance, for example. Why would she put that in danger with an unwanted pregnancy?
I think Carlos would get a little suspicious if Gabby never came to visit.
So then why is Carlos still messing with her birth control pills if he’s going to jail? Is it to have proof that she cheated on him?
And his grabbing her and forcing her to sign the post-nup…not cool, dude. Not cool at all.
Quick question by a newbie to these Desperate Housewive’s threads:
Am I supposed to hate everyone on the show?
Why?
Why is the only likable character a convicted drug dealing murderer?
I’ve watched the show from the begining, and the characters, although always shallow, were somewhat likable. But now, I find I hate all of the characters.
I used to like Lynnette as an overloaded mother who gave up a stellar career to raise some rambuctious kids. Now she’s a consistently bad and ineffectual mother who imposes on everyone. They even went so far as to play the “abused as a child” card to garner some sympathy for her. There was so much more they could have done with her character.
I used to like Bree’s character. Every neighborhood needs a somewhat uptight, closeminded priss who projects perfection. Then her son’s acting up is tied to his gayness, and she covers up his serious crime while at the same time sending him to boarding school. And lynette was right to bust her ass about child rearing when her son is such a fuckup. She’s petty and judgmental, which should make her an enjoyable character, if there was someone to counter her. Unfortunately, there is noone.
I used to like Gabby. Maybe it was her hotness that confused me, but rather than being a shallow and confused, but basically good person, she’s a money-grubbing, lying bitch with no redeeming qualities.
Susan remains likeable, but annoying to the extreme with the overplayed clumsiness and incredible inmaturity. Although she has some redeeming factors, the show itself is grating every single time she’s onscreen.
I’m asking myself more and more why I should watch a show where there are no redeeming characters who I actually care about. I’m starting to find myself rooting for Paul to systematically dispose of the protagonists of the show. I don’t think that’s a good thing.
Suburbia, style over substance, murder mystery, perception v. reality, parenthood v. professional life, and the expectation of the neighbors are all wonderful topics, rife with tension, humor and interest. Why the show has made every single women unlikeable is completely beyond me.
You’ve gone way too far, and I won’t stand for it.
Susan’s daughter is also likeable.
The face kicking scene made me laugh so hard I thought my sides would split. A big part of it was the pedicurist’s perfect timing and reaction.
Hey, that’s convicted drug dealing manslaughterer!
I dislike Lynette, but I really don’t dislike any of the other characters. Well, except for Bree’s son, but maybe, just maybe, he has an excuse for right now. For some reason, I can roll my eyes at Gabrielle without hating her.
If you’re not enjoying the characters, either to sympathize with or to laugh at, I’d consider bailing. I’ve been there with shows before and it just makes the whole viewing experience a chore. (Recent examples for me: “Jack and Bobby” and “Boston Legal.”)
And it makes the post-nup void! Now if she’ll be pregnant in a week who’ll be the father and will she keep it?
Ah, well, that’s as may be – but it’s the aggregate of hints that led me to conclude that Zach was an intersex baby. If all that’s going on is that Zach’s unisex name was changed as part of a simple abduction, why would he “remember” Dana as a little girl? Why would Mary Alice have felt it necessary to assure him that “it isn’t your fault?” Does “disgusting” sound like a likely way for a narrow-minded old woman to describe a kidnapping? It wasn’t a hospital that Angela worked at, either – it was a rehab clinic – and a large percentage of intersex births are related to uterine exposure to drugs. Little things like Paul’s fixing Zach’s tie so tightly (and Zach’s loosening of it pefectly coincident with him holding the threat of revealing the secret over his head,) go a long way for me too, but then I’m a mad deconstructionist and I can’t help chasing the trace.
Of course, if I’m wrong, I’ll be choking down a double-helping of crow, but I’m convinced that it coheres too perfectly to be a chimera.
Anyway…
I was really disappointed with Bree’s handling of her son’s revelation. She concluded that she’s a (relatively) good mother, and then blew it when she was given an ideal opportunity to prove it. She keeps tripping over the stick up her ass. Ouch.
And nobody deserves to be cuckolded more than Mr. Solis, the jerk. What a perfect retribution for fiddling with his wife’s contraception. Raise the lawnboy’s son, you heel – if you can even redeem yourself enough to deserve even that.
Bob Newhart? Priceless.
Was anyone else thinking when Bree was spanking Lynette’s child, that it was kind of ironic that her husband wants a little spanking, and can’t get it, but the neighbor kids can get all they want?
Here’s my take: The note that Mrs. Huber sent to Mary Alice said: “I know what you did. It makes me sick. I’m going to tell.” Kidnapping would make her sick. Perhaps she was referring to murder of the private investigator.
You may be right, though. Time will tell!