Detective discovers consensual incest during (and incidental) to case. What do do?

Yes, it’s a Skaldthetical with a long OP. No, there won’t be a poll, though I may change my mind between now and hitting submit. Persons who don’t like these should leave now, as should anyone who is distressed by the fourth word in the thread title.

Today’s story stars **Gee **Chaucer, a literate, monogamous private investigator whose gender and sexual orientation you may pick yourself. Assume for the purposes of this tale that you are Gee’s longtime lover and confidante, and that, while the two of you have tons of raucous sex, witty conversations, and soulful counsel.

Recently Gee has been hired by a DataTech, an electronics firm, to look into a case of industrial espionage. Gee is immediately underwhelmed by DataTech’s security, in particular their vetting of high-level employees and their spouses. Of particular concern to Gee are Rob Berry, a high-ranking executive with the firm, and his wife Jodie, a freelance writer. Investigating the Berries’ finances, Gee finds that they have been making huge cash withdrawals once a month for the past year for no apparent purpose. Moreoever, as far as Gee can discern, there is nothing to indicate that Jodie existed before the early 90s. The Berries are both in their 40s; they have a son in college, whom Gee does not meet, and a daughter in middle school, whom Gee does.

As it turns out, the Berries are not the security leak. But that doesn’t mean Gee has nothing to be concerned about. You see, before finding hte true culprit, Gee looked further into the Berries’ affairs and discovered that they are being blackmailed. Jodie’s real name is Frannie, and she is not legally married to Rob; she cannot be, for she is his twin sister. From early infancy they had a stronger connection to one another than either had to anyone else, and when they reached adolescence their parents grew to fear this connection would become physical. Thus they separated the twins, sending them to boarding schools on the opposite sides of country. Neither sibling saw the other, or their parents, for years: not until their mother’s death from cancer in 1990, when both were college juniors. Reconnecting in the wake of their mother’s funeral, they nonetheless tried to resist their attraction, succeeding until their father’s death by heart attack a year later. Having no other family they felt free to do as they desired; but knowing it was illegal they were careful about it. Thus they moved away from anyone who knew their parents, and Frannie became Jodie.

For nearly twenty years everything was fine; presenting themselves as a married couple, Jodie & Rob let no one – most especially not their children-- suspect they were siblings. But then someone who knew their parents chanced to see them, notice Jodie’s resemblance to long-absent Frannie, and put 2 and 2 together. As the Berries are quite well-to-do, that person demands money to keep quiet.

After Gee discovers all this, the blackmailer grows violent, and being a sentimental action hero type, Gee dispatches the blackmailer pro bono, fatally, and in legally-justified self-defense. But doing so does not allay all concerns. Talking to you after the two cases are over with, Gee wonders if it’s right to keep quiet about the Berries. If nothing else, their secret makes Rob a continuing security risk to DataTech, Gee’s actual, paying client; in addition, Gee worries that the couple may have subtly perpetuated the notion that incest is acceptable to their children . On the other hand, Gee would like the Berries quite a bit if not for the knowledge of their taboo relatinoship. There’s no indication that they are anything other that an adoring, mutually loving couple, and they strongly deny doing anything to encourage their children (who do not know about the incest) to emulate them.

Gee asks your opinion. What do you say?

I’m sorry, your OP confused me. I wrote out a long post but then realized I wasn’t really clear on what was going on, so instead here is a picture of a rabbit with a pancake on his head.

That’s a hare. You’d realize this if you lived in a civilized state, but y’all can’t even get grits up there.

Is incest even illegal between consenting adults? Skeevy? Hell yes, but I didnt think it was against the law.

Yes we do. I love grits. We just put sugar and honey on them.

A+

Does Gee have a legal duty to report?

Maybe he could help them. If someone figured out their secret then maybe Gee could figure out a way to cover it up better so no one else could figure it out and Rob would no longer be a security risk. I mean, the whole reason for making incest illegal AIUI is preventing defective children and it’s already too late in that respect, no?

Here’s the law in Tennessee, where I live:

Cite.

I thought I specified in the OP that I meant the hypo to occur in Memphis, but I see I didn’t. Must’ve edited it out.

:: shudders ::

If Athena had intended sugar and honey on grits, she would not have given us butter and/or strawberry jam. Please note that I did not write grape jelly, as that too is an abomination to the Goddess.

Gee’s not a police officer, doctor, schoolteacher, or social worker; Gee is a private detective, not employed by the state at all. I am not answering your question directly because I don’t know who has a duty to report such a crime.

Persons other than Mika would get an A+, but she is subject to a higher standard due to her general excellence as a poster, and thus I can only authorize a B.

Wait. I get a lower grade because I’m supposedly a better poster? You sound like my mother when I brought home a test. “A 98? I expected better of you. Where’s the other two points?”

Besides, I love Oolang (that’s the bunny - he passed away a few years ago, alas, but he lives on in our hearts.)

ETA: I generally don’t like jams much.

Okay, I am giving back the extra points because of this well-thought out response. But don’t confuse that with me being fair, because I’m not.

Reading the title I was all outraged “there can be no consent” because I automatically presumed parent/child. I wonder what that says about me.

After reading the OP completely I think that Gee should talk to Rob and Jodie and both explain that their blackmailer is no more and that Gee will be reporting to his employer that although Rob is not the leak there are personal issues that make him a target for blackmail. Sad as it is to split up an obviously working relationship Gee was hired by DataTech and his scope of duties would cover this information.

Rob and Jodie can deal with that however they choose.

I’m not really sure, but here are some questions to consider:

  1. Is Gee a “mandated reporter” for sex offenses in the applicable jurisdiction?

  2. Is Gee a “mandated reporter” for family troubles/social services jurisdiction type stuff? Now, Dee wouldn’t want the kids going all Modred on their father, now.

  3. What does Gee’s contract cover? Does Gee’s contract specifically indicate that it is for the indicated security leak, or is it worded in such a way that it indicates that Gee is a general security consultant?

  4. Is Gee bound by any confidentialities (e.g. an NDA with DataTech) that would restrict them from just up and reporting a non-mandated-reporter incident to the police, social services, or anyone else?

It depends on Gee’s contract with to the company. S/he was hired to investigate a specific case of industrial espionage - as you said, Berry is not the culprit. Let’s presume he did identify the spy and with sufficient evidence to oust and/or convict same.

OK - spy is gone.

In addition to tracking the spy, was Gee asked to do a more general review of the company’s security policies? If not - say nothing. Maybe chat with the Berries and suggest they transfer to another state or country. I think Belgium would be a pretty cool place to live, personally.

If yes, what was the scope? Was he just to identify specific loopholes in the company’s security policies? or identify those loopholes AND anything that should have been caught by same? It’s a subtle but important difference.

If the former (ID loopholes only), his report might include things like “recommend background investigations on key management” because I assume that’s a reasonable business practice. Any job requiring a security clearance would certainly delve into that sort of thing. And he could tip the Berries off about the contents of the report, so they could move to Rhode Island or Ohio.

If ID problems AND ID people who slipped through, then he has a duty to inform the company of Berry’s situation.

It says that you’re human and capable of both prejudgment and error, just like the rest of us. It’d be a different thing if you’d written based on that assumption.

But since consent is clearly a major issue for you (as it is for me), what if Rob and Jodie were parent and child? What if they were like Kathryn Harrison and her father, who embarked on an incestuous relationship after KH was an adult? Harrison wrote about it in her memoir The Kiss, and while there was clearly [del]some[/del] a great deal of emotional manipulation going on in that case, there was no physical coercion, and I’m not convinced that Harrison was not competent to consent to the incest. (Though, hypocritically, I am quite convinced that her father should be shot in the head.) Does you feelings change in that case?

Hmm. Are you saying that Gee should say that Rob has is a possible blackmail target, and no more than that, or that Gee should specify what that issue is? Because I don’t see the point in the first option; the employer is likely to demand to know what the personal issue is, and if Gee does not volunteer that information, the employer will demand it of Rob.

I dunno. If Gee’s been hired as a general security consultant, the incest & previous blackmail is clearly germane. But if Gee’s just a one-off, hired to squelch the current leak, the job is done; I don’t see why there’s a duty to the employer to share it, if Gee is otherwise okay with being silent.

I’m not sure about who is and is not a mandated reporter in Tennessee, so I can’t answer except as I did upthread. But though my first impulse is to say that Gee should mind his own business, the issue of the kids gives me pause because I’m not convinced that two siblings such as I described could have taught or modeled appropriate sexual norms as Jodie & Rob claim, as they clearly don’t accept those norms for themselves.

Domestic rabbit, specifically appearing to be of the Dutch rabbit breed.

Just dont tell her, the private detective could lose his head.

Declan

The OP got too tl;dr for me, so I’ll drop in this tidbit about how there’s more states that allow first cousins to marry than gay marriage.

Take your facts back to Cardiff where they belong, Welshman.

Wrong Asian, but same idea.