This is exactly what has bothered me about Dexter for the past couple of seasons.
Like Soylent Juicy, I immediately jumped to this conclusion as well, which tells me I’ve come to expect this kind of jerk-around by the writers. And it would be a jerk-around, as there are way too many holes in Vogel being the killer for it to be at all realistic (she killed three much younger, stronger men and moved them herself into elaborate positions–one hanging from a hook.
But this is what Dexter has become: A show where all the detail that at first made it interesting gets completely glossed in the service of crazy plot contortions. Just in this past episode, Dexter is at Sussmans house when the cops arrive (no idea how he slipped away), then after seeing a photo of Sussman at a cabin seems to quickly find the cabin location (and after setting up the “race against the cops” aspect of Dexter’s chase for Sussman, that gets abandoned at the cabin–presumably to set up the shocking reveal of the impaled Sussman). Even Deb’s inner-conflict over LaGuerta–a thread with a lot of potential for character exploration–has sputtered with the Briggs/El Sapo diversion.
What an awkward episode. We found a few interactions–particularly the ones between Quinn and nanny, then nanny-sister and Angel, awkward and clunky. Did the writers write that with each taking turns writing a sentence?
I figured Deb killed El Sapo the moment we saw his corpse. I now think Dexter may wind up having to kill her. As far as Vogel goes, I half expect she’s doing the killing. I also expect there to be surveillance cameras in a lot more places than Dexter encounters, like an evidence storage area, but hey…suspension of disbelief is locked in the holding position.
Still, I liked the first two seasons so much (and the one with Trinity) that I’ll see this through.
Yeah this episode was badly put together–edited, scripted, performance-wise.
Although they are once again going with the idea that Dexter was not destined to be a killer but was “made.” In a previous season the blame was put on Harry…but now we have Vogel.
The biggest tell was that Vogel said that psychopaths like Dexter don’t want personal connections…but Dexter has desperately sought out those out since the begining.
Push You Down, yeah, that’s where we figure its headed, too–Vogel was wrong and Dexter isn’t a psychopath. BTW would someone in her field actually use that term?
I’ve been hanging around clinical psychologists for the better part of 30 years, and I’ve never heard one use that term. On the flip side, I’ve also never heard one go uber-pedantic and say “person with antisocial personality disorder” either. They all just say ‘sociopath.’
Here’s a possible ending. The cops close in on Dexter and somebody points out that his testimony as a blood spatter expert put a lot a killers away and that if he is exposed as likely the most prolific serial killer in history they’ll all probably have a basis for appeal. So they decide to kill him in a manner consistent with whatever killer Dexter is after at the time. He agrees with this because it will protect his child from the stigma.
I’m thinking it’s going to end with Deb’s self-destructive path leading to her getting caught for LaGuerta’s murder, and Dexter confessing to save Deb.
I just can’t get into this season at all, so I also don’t give much of a fuck.
Maternal. In the first scene she, in a very heavy-handed exchange, tells him she ‘created him’ and in a way is his ‘spiritual mother’. It’s an attempt on the writers’ part to create someone in the show that Dexter cares about because pretty much everyone else he once cared about is some combination of dead, gone, and hating his guts. In the last scene, Vogel embraces him and tells him ‘he’s perfect’. At first he seems all WTF but then he does seem to go for the bait.
I thought that was well done on his part but I’m not too excited about Dr. Vogel. I welcomed her as an opportunity for this season to talk a little bit about what psychopaths really are or something (for instance, for someone with supposedly few emotional connections to things and people, Dexter’s pretty irascible these days, what’s the deal with that?). But her theory about psychopaths being nature’s way of generating civilization is obviously completely ridiculous and it’s a shame they couldn’t come up with something even a bit more plausible. It seems clear that Dr. Vogel’s going to increasingly turnout to be insane, if not actually the Brain Surgeon - but her theories can’t be, not if she’s somehow a world-renowned psychiatrist.
Nobody is watching it? Or is everyone not caring anymore?
I thought this past episode was quite good. Jennifer Carpenter nails it every season but this season especially.
I had to do a double take when they showed the calendar in the shoe killer’s house–July 2012. I realized, oh, yeah this only takes place 6 months after the last season which had its finale take place on New Years Eve.
I’m watching but I must admit that I have trouble caring too hard. I don’t care about anything going on in the periphery, like Quinn making/not making sergeant, Quinn fucking Angel’s sister, Matsuka apparently being reunited with the daughter he never knew about. And although I’m glad there’s now a wedge driven between Dexter and Vogel, that whole exchange had me :dubious: for the most part, and I don’t find the character convincing. I suppose Deb spinning out of control has potential, but so far it’s just been lots and lots of scenes of her down and out - but I guess this episode’s climax has upped the ante in terms of the threat she poses to Dexter.
I recall it being what the shoeKiller said - its possible i’m mistaken - but thats what I took from it - just him saying ‘found a hero’ at the minimum implies she had been searching for one and perhaps this game has been going on for awhile.
When I watched Sunday and Dexter was searching that guy’s house, I thought to myself “Gee, it’s so easy and inexpensive to set up cameras now for surveillance.”
Color me unsurprised then when the next shot showed the suspect doing just that.
That’s what I thought I remembered hearing; and to me, it didn’t imply anything ongoing. In fact, I got the impression he was surprised that Vogel could find a hero.
