You know who I wish would get raped in prison? People who wish other people got raped in prison. Seriously, you’re a major asshole if you fantasize about how some people deserve to be raped. Nobody deserves to be raped, not even teenagers who violate their room-mate’s privacy and then don’t express remorse over it.
I agree. Wishing rape on someone is worse than what Ravi actually did.
Will this question be on the final, Mr. Garrison?
My friend, I could write the book on bullying. I was bullied horribly from my 7th grade year to my 11th grade year, both verbally and physically. And it upset the hell out of me. But I never once thought of killing myself over it. And the bullying finally stopped when I made it stop. It took getting physical in return in one case, but it worked.
And if it worked for me, it would have worked for Tyler Clementi, had he chosen to do it. And that was my point - he chose to kill himself instead of doing something about it.
If you want people who wish people would get raped in prison to get raped in prison, you want to get raped in prison, but rape implies a lack of consent.
Well played sir, reminds me of the Grelling-Nelson paradox.
I’m assuming that “fucking idiot” in this sentence refers to me. And my response to that is to tell you politely that you are a douchbag for referring to me in that manner. I have no rage for Tyler Clementi whatsoever. I also have no sympathy for him. I am a…well, survivor of bullying is the best term that I can come up with. And I’m nobody special. If I can survive it and lead a happy life, so could Clementi.
You’re an idiot. Depression is real and denying it with this bullshit “choose to get better just like you can choose to stop having lung cancer” mysticism is as stupid as being a creationist.
Then I stand corrected. Thank you.
We do and should. But high school senior and college freshman are basically the same age. I’m sure the judge considered that when determining the sentence. Basically, Ravi was barely an adult.
I guess that explains the 30 days, and not a lesser punishment.
You’re an idiot.
And I suppose you consider yourself to be a genius?
You had me until the no remorse part of that sentence. Everybody fucks up (and sometimes very badly) but no remorse is just into scary sociopath territory IMO. Though I guess a prison raped sociopath ain’t gonna see the light and get better either…
Back to the sentence. While I think 10 years would be way too much, I think 30 days is way too little. It should be enough IMO to mess up a bit his “life schedule” so to speak. Something like 6 months to a year perhaps. The delay won’t ruin him, but it would be long enough to measurably “stall” his life progress. Or another way of looking at it is that the punishment (given that he was found guilty) should be significantly worse than what he would have gotten had he accepted the original plea offer.
No, i make a far more modest claim, which is that i’m not as stupid as you.
My point, which you spectacularly failed to grasp, was that the circumstances of the real case and the case from an asinine and unfunny movie are separated not only by the fact that one is real and one isn’t, but by the fact that the person involved in the real case committed actions very different from the person involved in the pretend case.
Do you need that explained further, because i could probably do it in words of one syllable if that would help.
I’ll just say that Ravi is lucky he did not pull stunt like this in high-school. If this was high-school, I’m quite certain that Ravi and his friends would be in the news of another high-school shooting in US. That, in my opinion, would make much better choice that suicide.
First of all, you’re not in a position to judge my intelligence. Chances are, I’d spank you in any objective measurement of intelligence but let’s leave that alone for now.
Obviously the movie example was just that, an example. It was not an exact comp…in fact no 2 situations are exactly the same, be it fiction or real life. In my next post, I asked for real life data of similar crimes and their legal outcomes. Why did you choose to ignore that post and focus on the easier target?
I want someone to provide a cite in which someone secretly recording or streaming a roommate did more than 30 days of jail time for a first offense.
And here’s some news for you, kids in trouble try to cover their tracks when they’re scared shitless. I’m glad the judge was alot smarter than the average person.
Most of the things he was convicted of carry a 15 year sentence.
FTR, from the article: The judge also sentenced Ravi to 300 hours’ community service, gave him three years’ probation and ordered him to contribute $10,000 to a state-licensed, community-based organization that helps victims of bias crimes.
Berman said he’d recommend Ravi, a native of India who has lived in this country most of his life, not be deported.
Prosecutors said they would appeal.
Read more: Dharun Ravi sentenced to 30 days in jail - UPI.com
I am puzzled about why Ravni didn’t get 90 days or a year and a day. I see a big difference between 30 and 90 days.
Admittedly, there’s something to be said for 37.5 days worth of 8 hour days of community service and the $10,000 fine. I’m wondering whether this magnitude of chaos in his life will deter future crimes in college.
The whole bit about the bullying victim who has absolutely no sympathy for anyone else who was also a bullying victim sort of reminds me of the fact that children who are abused are disproportionately likely to grow up and abuse their children. It would appear this is a very common phenomenon.
I don’t know about tests of intelligence, dude, but you don’t have the knowledge of writing that would be expected from the typical high school graduate. Just so you know. Let me give you some hints that a normal high school student would know: “a lot” is two words. “2” is written out in grownup writing. (It’s spelled “two”.) You use commas like a second-grader and there is no style guide in the world that treats three periods in a row with no spaces as an ellipsis.
It’s fine that you’re uneducated; that doesn’t indicate any failing on your part. But any adult of normal intelligence is entirely capable of not making the sort of errors you made.
I just wanted to point out the irony of you writing like a 10-year-old while insisting on your intelligence. No offense intended.
Oops, I was trying to quote Clothalump. Sorry. Scroll up, I guess?