Remember on the Today show when Hillary Clinton defended her husband from the spurious accusations concerning him and Monica Lewinsky?
It was “A vast right wing conspiracy?”
Did she ever apologize for villifying those she falsely accused?
Did she acknowledge that, or are Republicans beneath such consideration?
Why, oh why did you start this?
Here we go again…
Did you consider this scenario:
that at the time, she believed both that there was a vast r/w/c [sup]tm[/sup] and that said r/w/c [sup]tm[/sup] was responsible for the Monica mess.
so that now, understanding that Bill was responsible for the Monica mess, and the the r/w/c[sup]tm[/sup] weren’t responsible for that, she may believe that they still exist and were responsible for other stuff like Paula, the leaks to the special prosecutor etc etc etc.
So while the specific charge ‘you done this bad thing’ may not have been true, I don’t recall that her position was that the **only ** thing they did was the Monica gig.
IOW - If I accuse you of being a blowhard republican ideolouge who hates gophers, Amish and sparrows, and later on I discover that you love sparrows (fried/grilled or baked), I’m not sure that a formal appology would be all that welcome. 
(but I agree, the classy thing to do would be to specifically say “I was wrong that they were behind the Monica mess.” OTOH, damn - she was one of the most publically humilated wives in history, and she didn’t run him down in a Mercedes, give her credit for that at least)
I kinda remember David Brock apologizing to her…
There WAS a conspiracy. The whole Lewinsky thing was orchestrated solely as a means to bring down Clinton. Whether he actually got blown or not is sort of beside the point. I thing Kenneth Starr owes the country an apology and linda Tripp owes the state of Maryland some jail time.
I declare this the stupidest thread on Earth!
Honestly** Scylla** you are one of the most respected posters around here. Why did you make such a worthless thread? You didn’t even rant. You just asked a question that begs for a train wreck.
We don’t need a train wreck. Her book is out, and I was reading about it, and recalled the incident.
I was thinking about false accusations and blaming others for things that are not your fault. I remember being mad when I heard her make the accusation, though as Wring says, I can forgive it given the embarassment of the circumstances.
I was thinking about Bill keeping silent and letting his wife further humiliate herself in public in his defense, and I was thinking about the general climate of this board, the attacks on Republicans and conservatives in general.
I wondered if Hillary, or better yet Bill, had apologized for the wrong they committed.
I wonder why there seems so much blaming and hating of Republicans being voiced usually for the stupidest of reasons.
God, I don’t like Hillary, but I’m wondering genuinely is she ever apologized or acknowledged the error she had made in blaming the right for her husband’s problems.
I actually suspect that she did. I want to know though.
It’s in the pit because… well, because it seems if I posted the question elsewhere it would probably just end up here.
I am hoping however that we can do without the fuckspeak.
Has this got something to do with not finding any WMDs in Iraq?
I agree that Bill aught to have his dick tied in a knot for letting his wife go on and on in his defense all those months. The adultry was slimey. the nature of it was slimey. the deception was slimey. the lies to her were slimey.
But to let her go on national TV saying she ‘knew’ the relationship wasn’t as characterized and knowing that was not the truth, well, fucker deserves all sorts of retribution on a personal level for that one. (It’s my opinion he’d have continued to deny it had Monica not been convinced to keep that dress. Who the hell does that sort of thing anyhow? but I digress).
What a coincedence - Sidney Blumenthal just published a book which some say proves there was indeed a conspiracy.
I’m not saying it’s right, and I’m not saying it’s wrong. Just pointing out that some may think that an apology from Ms Clinton isn’t warranted.
What a coincidence - Sidney Blumenthal just published a book which some say proves there was indeed a conspiracy.
I’m not saying it’s right, and I’m not saying it’s wrong. Just pointing out that some may think that an apology from Ms Clinton isn’t warranted.
Purd I believe the idea that Scylla is going for is that at some point, Hillary was claiming that there never was a relationship, that it was more lies from the v/r/w/c[sup]tm[/sup], to discredit Bill.
and there was indeed a relationship, so that the claim that the v/r/w/c[sup]tm[/sup] had lied about it was wrong. The further claims that the story was being slung to and fro to discredit Bill were most likely true. The leak of the data to Starr and co, for example, and to those on the Paula Jones case (which got him in the position of being deposed about the relationship) were (IMHO) most likely to be truely leaks for political purposes. But the very specific “They lied about the relationship itself” was a false accusation.
I wonder why some people hold these things so dear to their hearts.
If you told a friend of yours that her husband was cheating on her, and she got mad and refused to believe you, when she found out later it was true would you demand an apology?
Um, Scylla?
I’m trying not to let our politics get involved in analyzing the situation, but here’s how I see it:
A man and his wife are active in politics. Prior to the time he is elected President, some of his business associates do stuff not totally kosher. He and wife are tangentially tarred by it, but come out of it with only minor monetary loss and no apparent complicity in the chicanery.
He’s elected President. The opposition, on getting a majority in Congress, immediately start a massive investigation into whether he or she did anything illegal in relation to the above-noted chicanery. No evidence linking them to any illegal acts is extant.
Meanwhile, he engages in a bit of extramarital hanky-panky, apparently a number of times. Being a good wife, she stands by him, and accuses the opposition party of trying to bring him down.
Eventually, evidence of one such bit of hanky-panky and his perjuring himself with regard to it comes to light. And as a result, the entire ponderous impeachment process is brought to bear against him.
And the opposition party is pretty thoroughly united in trying to bring him down through that means.
Bottom line for me: Hilary did not apologize for that accusation because it was a quite true statement, even if he was guilty of a quasi-adulterous act. (“Quasi-adulterous” because, in an infamous phrase, it depends on your definition of what sex is. :))
Think it through – from their perspective.
Hillary won’t apologize. She’s above apologies. They are the President.
And did she ever apologize to Sir Edmund Hillary when she claimed she was named after him even before he climbed fuckin’ Everest?
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I don’t see that she owes anyone an apology.
There is no question that there was a vast effort to get Mr. Clinton, and the resources expended on a perjury case exceed by orders of magnitude anything that woul have been spent had the target not been the President.
Not to say it wasn’t warranted, and not to say that Mr. Clinton didn’t deserve to be held to a high standard.
But even putting aside the understandable zeal of a deceived wife defendign her husband, the plain fact is that vast forces were arrayed to get Mr. Clinton. The observation being true, she owes no apology.
She lies like a dawg, Dude! Of course it’s just my opinion, but I think she learned how at the hands of “Smilin’ Bill”!
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Damn…The Readers Digest Condensed Version for all of you who don’t want to delve into much chicanery.:eek:
As for the OP…I’m sure she hasn’t given a single thought to actually being wrong, so she has no need to apologize.