I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to get hysterical. I’m just on my monthly.
Wow. That’s very off-putting.
Yes, your monthly makes you overly emotional and your uterus makes you crazy. You have a lot to deal with. Why don’t you just go lie down and let the boys take care of determining your salary and compensation?
Though that could also count against her with the school - if they are really “teaching oriented” and are one of those schools that will grant tenure with a light publishing history because they want professors who teach - they could have gone into the offer with a feeling that she was a little research oriented and “overqualified” for their school. You are looking for the best fit - not necessarily the most qualified - particularly when you are talking about tenure track.
I don’t think she “deserved what she got” UNTIL after the fact when she went public with the name of the school. At that point I’d think that the school - and any other school looking at her CV - would be thinking “dodged THAT bullet.”
Or, I think, that they might have thought that she had been advised by professors at a major research-oriented school and so they might have forgiven her mistake. But people in this thread have said that even small, teaching-oriented colleges have publication standards for tenure.
People keep saying this but I’m not sure what the big crime is here. This is what happens in the internet age. She didn’t reveal any individual’s personal, private information. She revealed what to her—and to some others—seemed to be a draconian reaction possibly tinged with sexism. It’s the kind of thing that does get publicized today. And the lesson is to employers—don’t take actions that you might be embarrassed if they were revealed.
As to her prospects at other universities, as I’ve said before, I suspect she has other offers in hand. I doubt very much that this is going to be a career-ender for her.
There’s something to that, though I’m not sure it’s as gender-based as you think. A few years ago at annual review time, I asked to have the title of a co-worker who had just retired. I didn’t want any more money, just the advanced title, which I justified in that I was taking all his responsibilities and was already doing a higher level of work than he had been doing. My boss was able to justify this, and since I wasn’t asking for a raise, I got my promotion - which turned out to be three pay grades higher. A year and a half later, a new manager was reviewing all of our compensation structures and decided to move me to the center of my pay grade. Arguably, the more subtle move of 18 months previous - which didn’t involve a pay raise - resulted in a pretty substantial increase down the road.
All-new this season on NBC…
Especially since she’s published her reaction under a nom de plume. Nice to be able to hide while outing the institution, isn’t it?
Not that Nazareth will suffer in this market. When this ad (which has been on my mind since the thread started) nets highly-qualified applicants, it’s plainly obvious that it takes a lot for new Ph.Ds to shun a philosophy department.
Exactly. This particular woman was not playing a strong hand. Women should play poker. It’s where you learn such things.
Why can’t a woman be more like a man?
She’s spent her life becoming an expert in a difficult field. Now as a novice academic she’s also supposed to be a world-class strategist.
I cannot imagine the school doing anything else. She was clearly ill-suited for the position and situation.
Yep. She should at least learn the formalities of dealing with those in authority. Showing that you know the formalities and courtesies is important. These manners’ mean so much in social interactions.
Kant signed the dedication to the king in his * Critique of Pure Reason *as:
‘Your obedient servant’
I have no problem with her anonymity. She’s an individual. Her privacy and security is more important than that if an institution. Individuals already have a much weaker hand than employers. This kind of this is fair play in my view.
And women in the internet are exposed to a vile level if threats and abuse. Hell yeah she should try to protect her privacy. Already the firestorm of vitriol is scary.
I don’t mind her anonymity. I think she could have accomplished what she felt she needed to without naming the University as well.
Just you wait. As a tenure-track professional, she is also supposed to be a world-class grantwriter/fundraiser, teacher, writer, speaker, administrator, and of course interviewer. One of the reasons academic departments are so dysfunctional is that they assume that their intellectual awesomeness in their field transfers to any other endeavor they might take on, with predictable results.
Yes, it’s amazing how intelligence or skill at one thing does not necessarily transfer to other things, though sometimes there is a latent skill of which the possessor was unaware because he had never needed to apply himself to the task for which that skill was required.
Except my department, of course. 
I’m such a world-class chair that we never have problems!
I’ll get back to you when I stop laughing…
I should qualify by saying that most academics I know work really hard to BUILD these varied skill sets, and a lot of the academic skills transfer over. But the job description for tenured faculty is all over the map, and graduate school mostly doesn’t prepare you for it or even make you aware that it exists.
Of course, I have a PhD from a top school from a department that mismanaged itself out of existence, so my background may be an extreme version of this.
I concur. Remaining anonymous while fingering the institution for something like this (as opposed to something like corruption) is a little gutless. There are a lot of variables that her posting doesn’t give us, either. Was she prompt in responding to their offer? Had Nazareth already “bent” for her in other ways? It would have been better for her to have called the place “a SLAC in the Northeast” instead of naming names, especially when the institution probably won’t fire back.
I was very lucky that my phd lab was run by an outstanding PI, who helped prepare grad students and post-docs for a variety of career choices. She had us writing grants and helping to author papers as early grad students. She really was was ahead of her time. She was Dept chair of a large department and eventually Dean. She was a fabulous mentor and taught me a lot, so it’s true- those skills do need to be taught and so often aren’t.