Did this college fail to negotiate in good faith or did this applicant deserve what she got?

I suspect she’ll be okay. I should be an angry “fuck those kids” kids kind of guy, since I only have a B.A. and I started a business from scratch, but, you know, I think they’ll do okay.

Based on her negotiating position, she was obviously in a post-doc position that could continue. She also had a second offer besides the one from Nazareth. She’s going to be fine.

Good for her. Nobody did anything wrong, therefore.

Regards,
Shodan

In the end, yes. The only problem I personally have is her bringing this to public, and publicly naming the school, but I can see her doing so as heads-up for others. Still, I personally would have kept that on the down-low and chalked it up to experience. Then again, I wouldn’t be surprised if being vocal works out best for her.

Because if I’m trying to get my first job in the field, I will convince you that I’m the best fit. So both sides knew what the other wanted (or at least she fooled SLAC as to what she wanted). After being chosen, she thought the job was guarantied and now she tells SLAC the truth about what she wanted (basically a research job)

So now SLAC has three options:

  1. No! You start on this date.
  2. You lied to us during the process about your goals and vision. Tus pantalones están ardiendo. No job.
  3. Clearly you want something different than this job. We could negotiate but ultimately we will be hiring someone to replace you within 3 years. Since this is TT, it’s better to make that change now.

I would like to see the official announcement or posting. I am sure that the start date and other requirements were included.

Here is some information and comment from elsewhere:

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/03/13/lost-faculty-job-offer-raises-questions-about-negotiation-strategy

These points were relevant:

“She advises her clients to negotiate offers, but with careful attention to tone and by tailoring their requests to the institution at hand. Some of W’s requests, such as taking time for the postdoc, would be a major inconvenience to the institution, she said. And it’s never a good idea to suggest what the market-appropriate salary is, since starting salaries vary widely by institution type.”

Looks like the position is still open:

https://chroniclevitae.com/jobs/0000804220-01

and here is a page with all kinds of information about benefits:

http://www.naz.edu/human-resources/employee-benefits

Keep your quarter and buy your own clue. But my bad: I assumed that your hiring practices were germane to the issue here, which is hiring someone with knowledge, skills, and higher education, rather than finding just another round peg.

I definitely wouldn’t want you working for me hiring people, because I’d want talented, educated, productive people, including people who negotiate. But it’s a different business so what works for you is fine for you. Just be aware that it doesn’t apply to all businesses.

well I’d want someone who planned on actually working for me instead of negotiating extended leave time before showing up. As a college student I wasn’t too pleased with grad students teaching instead of the people actually hired to do the work.

This is somewhat relevant:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101531415?__source=yahoo|finance|headline|headline|story&par=yahoo&doc=101531415|Here%27s%20the%20real%20reason%20mi