Did this dog need to be shot or not? (video)

Not enough of dog maven to knowif this dog was out of control or not. The police shot it while it was snared in a catch pole noose, but the animal control person does not seem to have the dog fully under control, and it appears she is getting dragged around by the dog. The policeman then starts shooting the dog.

Did this need to be done?

Well, the article says no one felt threatened by the dog until after the dog had been tasered twice. The dog was restrained in a catchpole and trying to flee at the time of execution.

Note that the police hit someone’s car with a stray bullet.

Indefensible.

No, there was no reason the shoot the dog. It was back in his home, not hurting anyone. Catch poles are really scary devices, any dog, even the most mild would freak out a bit being caught in one. It’s basically a noose on a stick.

“Large aggressive pit bull?” Medium sized, scared terrier of some sort, possibly a border collie?

I think the police officer just wanted to kill something.

There was no reason for this. I agree that this cop was looking for any possible excuse to kill it.

I’m at a loss to explain what they thought tasering an animal was going to accomplish.

Dogs that visually resemble pit bulls are banned in Commerce City, Colorado (which is a foolproof way of identifying them of course), which is where the events in this video took place. Likely the two officers in the video have been fed a whole lot of the “pit bulls are scary killers” bullshit.

The funny part is that Cynosport, the nation’s top canine agility association, just held their national championships there. And then didn’t understand the fuss - after all, anyone who wanted to bring their highly trained pit bull could get an exemption! Sure, I’m going to take my dog to an area where people tend to shoot them on sight, this piece of paper will protect us…

Not the best video to judge from but it didn’t appear that they had lost control of the dog. I’d personally prefer they not turn the neighborhood into a shooting gallery considering it was a moving target and they really couldn’t judge the trajectory of their bullets. Not sure why one of them couldn’t help hold the snare

It would have bitten one of them. Even dumber was that one in Alaska. Cops shot a bull moose when all it was doing was graze on someone’s hedge.

I agree with “indefensible.” It looked like they were dangerously close to shooting the animal control officer, too. I sure wouldn’t want to be 3 feet from (and at one point, behind) the moving target the guy was firing at.

Having the dog in control does not mean the dog is immobilized. I didn’t see any indication that the AC officer didn’t have the dog in hand at that point.

Did anyone consider just closing the garage door since it was in the corner in its bed?

As one who thinks that sometimes drastic action when it comes to agressive dogs is required IMO the officers reacted with excessive force. And more importantly could have easily put a cap in some poor humans ass in the process.

I hope the officer gets fired for opening fire in a neighborhood like that. Between stray bullets and a dog that was initially staying in the garage (until tazed)… the officer needs to be fired and made to pay for the damages to the car that he hit.

Personally, I don’t think there is any excuse for him shooting that dog. Either the animal control officer let the police officer run amok or the animal control officer is an idiot. That dog was attempting to escape being tazed.

well that would involve pulling the emergency release and slamming it down. Much easier to start a shootin and let the bullets fall where they may.

How can you say that???
COPS ARE HEROS!!!

9/11!:mad:

Kindly explain how this cute little doggy withstood 2 shots with a tazer and was still able to pull the Animal Control Officer at will was NOT an immediate threat? As noted, the dog was not only pulling the officer at will, but was whipping its head around in a way that would eventually free it.
A dog actually under the control of a catch pole stays where the person holding it desires; hardly the case here.

A frightened pit bull trained to the point of withstanding the pain of a tazer and still be fighting is NOT something I want running around a neighborhood with children.

Why was this file edited?

For those who want to trap it in its garage (from which it had escaped once) - YOU be the one to dis-engage the opener, open an exit door for yourself, then close the vehicle door with a damned pit bull immune to tazering in the garage with you. And make sure the nice pooch doesn’t get through the door with you, or you are right back a your starting point.

At NO TIME was that dog CLOSE to being controlled - as soon as the snare was around it’s neck, the person holding it went where the dog wanted - and the dog wanted out.

Hell yes, shoot the damned thing until it stops moving - if that takes 50 rounds, I’m sure the cops have an AR-15 handy.

As long as Pit Bulls continue to be bred for fighting, don’t be surprised that they are though of as fighters - it was their original purpose. Most things being called “pit bull” wouldn’t last 5 minutes in a pit, but that dog had obviously been trained to withstand pain and keep fighting. No sympathy.

If your dick is so small you need a vicious animal to make you feel manly, too bad.

And why was it referred to as “a large breed dog”. You don’t call a chihuahua a “small breed dog”, and it’s not like pit bulls look so much like other breeds that they cannot be differentiated.

Yes, even though 20% of this officers shots went wild, the best course of action would have been for him to shoot even more. What’s 10 stray rounds flying around the neighborhood when there’s a dog sitting in a garage?

Of course, you’re right that we should consider that this dog obviously attended Pit Bull Special Forces Training, where it learned to withstand being tasered. It would be foolish to assume that what you see is a completely normal panic response from an animal encountering severe pain. Everybody knows that most dogs, on being tasered, would calmly lie in a prone position and wait to be taken into custody.

Thank you for bringing some well measured logic into this otherwise unreasonable discussion.

Too late to edit but…

Uh, yeah, about that

Yes, this tasering the dog thing is dumber than shit. A human tasered might have enough sense to stop fighting when the tasering is over. Tasering is going to make just about any animal go batshit crazy with panic. Now you might want to taser or mace a dog or animal if you WANT it to run away from you. And thats what happened. They tased it and it just tried harder to get away.

At what point did anyone say the animal had been trained? Are you making an assumption? Who provides anti-taser training to canines?

Unlike humans, dogs lack the capacity to understand that they should submit to the guy with the taser. All they accomplished by shocking the dog was provoking it into becoming violent.

It is exceedingly rare for an animal to become violent for no reason at all. Maybe they should have tried giving it a treat instead of electrocuting it.

I’ve seen footage of a police officer being charged by a loose dog that really looked like it wanted to take a chunk out of him. The police officer tazed the dog, the dog screamed in pain and ran off. Mission accomplished, everyone got to live without major injury. (Though I highly suspect there was a negligent dog owner who should have been tazed too.)

Why you’d taze a dog that is already on a catch pole… yeah, I got nothing.

I need to go with the time of the first shot, all other shots after the dog is hit are pretty irrelevant and helping the dog pass with less suffering. On that first shot the dog appears is still uncontrolled and charging.

Unfortunate but I find no fault

YMMV

Here we have my Q of editing - we don’t see the tazer (which is not only painful, but seriously disrupts the victim’s neural system) - we see one cop being motioned to go back to the car (or wherever) just before the animal is snared. You folks go face an enraged pit that is dragging the animal control officer around and is turning toward you - you have, in order of strength:
Mace
Tazer
Pistol

at your disposal. Tazer didn’t work. YOU go offer it a snack.
How do I know it was trained? How else would an animal learn to response aggressively to a friggin tazer - and a cop tazer at that (nastier loads in those things)? There is a reason most people crumple when tazed - they have lost the ability to stand (or do much of anything else requiring coordinated neural activity.

Pits have very different jaws than Staffordsshires. They are also lower and wider - as close as I could tell, that was a dog not far removed from the fighting version of line.
There are reasons shelters kill pits without trying to place or even “rehab” them. Much the same reasons vets volunteer their time to spay/neuter breed.