Now that’s interesting. I’m assuming all the US Catholics had the same Gospel reading today because they use a standardised prayer guide (Mass guide? whatever it’s called) as a framework for the service. I’m curious to know what Gospel reading the non-US Catholics did (Cunctator and trupa, I’m looking at you, and others can feel free to join in).
Yep. From 9am to 12. We don’t have sermons exactly, we have people speak and everyone gets a turn sooner or later. And I didn’t go to choir afterwards.
Yes (I play the bass and guitar in the choir).
70 minutes.
The same as all Catholic masses: forgiveness (from the Gospel of 99 sheep/coins and Prodigal Son)
Yes (I sing in the choir and occasionally serve as cantor).
11:30 to 12:45.
The topic this week was forgiveness, and the importance of each human soul to God.
No. When I was a kid I used to go to a Presbyterian sunday school in which we got to do fun things like chase the teachers around with kichen knives while pretending to be zealots. My mother, who was agnostic at the time, later said she sent us to the Sunday school to teach us good manners.
Fast forward about 35 years:
I’m not an atheist, but I’m in a weird position where I believe there’s something up there and I can’t trust it. It’s been out to get me since I was born.
My sister, however, is still a Presbyterian and still goes to church.
Our gospel yesterday morning was also the lost sheep/lost coin parable, which the visiting missionary priest cleverly worked in to his homily. The lectionary is the same everywhere in the world for all Latin rite Catholics. So yesterday we all got the readings for 24th Sunday in Ordinary Time, year C (there’s a three year cycle in the Sunday mass lectionary).
Whoa, looks like I’m going to win the “excessive amount of time at church” award.
7:30 Prayer
8:15 First service
9:30 Discipleship classes
11:00 Second Service
1:00 Baptism
Then Awana training in the evening.
Sermon was about our own responibilities in giving in to temptation and the various lies we choose to believe that lead us to sin. For example that we need something, that our cravings can’t be resisted, etc.
Discipleship class was about kingship. We started with the question of “what does the word king bring to mind?” I’m afraid I thought of Elvis and then Richard Petty. Much laughter and then to the serious study…
Most members of our local congregation go to only one of the services, but I’m on a prayer team that is available for special requests for prayer–I often end up staying for both services if our pastoral staff appears to want assistance in ministry.
All but the one that says “biggest waste of time” is not belittling to the people who chose to go. That one is indeed kinda snarky.
One thought WOW was more productive. Not belittling, just their own opinion.
One said their were a fundie when younger and more naive. They felt that moving toward whatever religious beliefs they hold now was from an act of maturing through life. They didn’t say they weren’t religious now, though they didn’t go to church.
One asked if any religions venerate the Creation. Yes, they were a bit snarky about the other “fairlylands” but clearly had a religious point of view that they thought was important. Plus, in the part you quoted, didn’t even say they didn’t go to church.
These quotes, as I said, strongly support their own opinion, but can hardly be called belittling those who chose to go. Would you say it was belittling in some who went waxed positive about how wonderful the experience was and felt it was the most important part of their week?
If anything, your “observation” that those who went to church were not belittling and those did seemed to be more belittling can be taken as snarky too, if we wanted to read that deeply into people’s comments.
I’m Unitarian. Unitarians don’t generally have universal rituals (lighting the chalice would be probably the only one), but a Water Communion is one that is often used, and often used on opening Sunday. Water is the “stuff of life” - necessary for life. It unites us. Because UUs are big on social justice (my congregation particularly so) we are reminded that all over the world people don’t have easy access to clean water. We think about thirst, and how sometimes we are spiritually parched. We bring in water from our summer travels or a place we love - that goes into bowls and is sterilized to use in dedications thoughout the year. We cleanse hands in a community bowl and take a sip back with us. Then, we drink as a community.
(At least that was this year. Not being big on rituals, it changes a bit from year to year).
This year we also tied it to a special collection for flooding victims in Pakistan.
Chronos - I wonder why its “fair turnabout” when the vast majority of religious SDMB posters don’t disparage non-attenders or atheists? I understand the need to poke - my minister was poking and Fundamentalists during our sermon. But the people you are likely to offend here seem, by and large, to be fairly respectful of your position.
You should try hanging out on my parenting message board. It is as Christian-friendly as the SDMB is atheist-friendly. My personal experience is that whenever either group feels that it has strength in numbers, you’re going to have some members of the group that feel free to disparage the other one. Although I have really seen very little disparaging/belittling in this thread. Mostly it’s just people talking about either 1) their churchgoing experience, or 2) how they are happy not to have had a churchgoing experience. I don’t see how someone saying, “I haven’t been to church in 20 years and this makes me pleased” is disparaging any other person.