Ummm, not fuck them? Is it really that difficult to not fuck? Why I’ve been not fucking for a couple days now, with no adverse effects whatsoever. And I’ve gone weeks, even monthes not fucking at a time. If you do fuck them, you deal with the consequences.
While that’s a perfectly legit stance to have, it’s not really the problem here. At issue is Dio’s claim that at no point has anyone every been fooled by a girl looking older than her actual age. Every person who has claimed this is lying. Every personal assertion made by someone passing as older is also made by someone full of shit. Anyone who has ever, at one time or another, realized that the girl they’re talking to in a bar isn’t old enough to be in that bar is in reality an ephebophile.
Snarky_Kong hit it exactly – there was a time when Dio at least knew how to walk the line between pompous ass and useful poster, but this “Expert” shtick he’s been on the past couple of years has grown far too wearisome.
I disagree that those are comparable. It’s reasonable to expect STDs and pregnancy as possible consequences and one can choose either not to continue or take whatever steps and accept the risks. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect that someone who looks 23 and has ID that says she’s 23 is lying.
Sure, I’d agree that it’s a bad idea to have sex with someone in that situation, and I never would myself, but I don’t think that makes the act criminal. Stupid, yes… criminal, no.
But the consequences of fucking a consenting legal adult are exactly zero, and why shouldn’t appearance and ID be sufficient?
Seriously, if ID isn’t good enough, at that point you have to either ask for stronger proof like a passport or birth certificate or start making the rounds. “Hey, how old’s your daughter? Only I’d like to tap that and I want to be sure she’s legal.”
Not even that, but an out and out pedophile.
And, according to the thread we’re referencing, that is irrelevant, as the law says that ignorance of the child’s age is no excuse. I guess the jury could nullify, but the judge will try to make them think that is wrong.
And while I can understand someone being pigheaded, I don’t understand wasting your time fighting about it. If you believe something with absolute certainty, but constantly get whipped on it by better arguers, why bother?
I’m married and faithful.
Cause if you don’t, you won’t get attention.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to put the onus on the person having sex to have to deal with the consequences of having sex with someone, even if that someone they’re having sex with is a liar.
I have no problem with it being criminal. I do have a problem with some 19 year old going to prison for having consensual sex with a well developed, lying, fake ID having 16 year old. But there is a whole world of difference between criminal and going to prison.
I’m at work so I can’t look it up on YouTube, but I’m reminded of the Dave Chappelle bit where a couple was about to have sex and the guy pulled out a legal form that he made her read and sign before they got down to business.
Sadly, I think he was actually ahead of his time with that one.
it’s kind of contradictory for you guys to have spent so much energy arguing about how unreliable looks and ID cards can be, and then turning around and saying that looks and ID should be solid legal defenses. If they’re that unreliable in a barroom, why should they be taken as meaningful in a court room?
Yes, yes, feel free to throw a time machine in there back to before you were. The point still stands that you’re being a fucking retard about this. HOLY SHIT DIO CAN’T BE FOOLED BECAUSE HE CAN’T BE FOOLED! AND HE KNOW HE CAN’T BE BECAUSE HE NEVER HAS BEEN! NO, NEVER ONCE HAS HE SEEN A WOMAN WHO WAS YOUNGER THAN SHE APPEARED TO BE! LO, THESE MANY YEARS HE HAS PERFORMED EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND CHECKS ON EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING HE HAS EVER COME INTO CONTACT WITH TO ENSURE THAT HIS MENTAL ESTIMATES OF THEIR RESPECTIVE AGES WERE 100% ON THE MARK.
No, dicklips, **you **were the one who was arguing that IDs are unreliable. Remember that? I know you’re fucking retarded and senile, so it’s hard to keep it straight. The point of everyone else on this board was that, while IDs can be faked in convincing ways, they are usually accurate, and they are relied upon just about everywhere as reliable proof of identity, including age.
Jesus fucking christ, what is wrong with you?
Hooray for Dio. Not only is he teh bestest arguer, he also has a perfect relationship.
(I’m curious as to how soon his daughters left the family nest, tho’.)
I hate to disabuse you of your innocent and pure notions of my gentle sex but…we have been known to lie. I have a “girlfriend” who said “yes, I’m on the pill” when she wasn’t and her boyfriend at the time is paying child support sixteen years later. I have a “girlfriend” who was screwing around at 16 telling people she was 18. And one who is a lying meth whore - and still cute enough to take you to bed and fuck you, then leave your house with everything she can carry. (Please note that none of these people are my actual friends, they travel in - or used to travel in - the same circles).
Its reasonable to expect that a person you just picked up in a bar is not completely honest - about their birth control, their STDs, or their age - because many people aren’t. Just like if you are a woman - its reasonable to expect that a certain number of men in the bar are actually married even if they tell you they aren’t, aren’t actually employed even if they tell you they have great jobs. If you don’t know them well enough to feel confident in their morality, don’t fuck them. Because you can end up paying child support for a million years, getting cited in the divorce case, or ending up a registered sex offender - not to mention the STD risk.
You missed the point. The consequences (like STD, pregnancy, and the crazies) of having sex are still there, even if it’s with a consenting legal adult. A person engaging in sexual activity with someone has to deal with the consequences of that action, and one of the consequences is the risk the person is under the age of consent. If you do have sex with this imaginary 16 year old, who looks like she’s 23 year and has a fake ID, you deal with the consequences of that act.
Feel free to continue to make up bizarre situations, but the fact remains that there is another damn good option DON’T FUCK THEM. Until you’re absolutely sure they’re overaged, don’t have sex with them. It’s really not that big of deal.
Me too. Or at least I was… I never realized how badly I want to fuck infants until you put the idea in my head.
ISTM that he is getting a little worse, but mybe that is just my perception.
Lately there have been the[ul][li]It is 100% certain the Mass. Senate race will absolutely go Democratic []No 14 year old can possibly be mistaken for an adult []Any normal male who claims he is less interested in sex as a result of stress is always getting it from someone else Probably some others I missed.[/ul]It’s my perception that he didn’t used to be quite this bad. I seem to remember a thread some time back where he was getting into this same pig-headed stance about something - IIRC that nobody ever drank alcohol in Iraq. But then when he got cited enough he admitted his mistake. [/li]
His little “cite that the sky is blue” act gets old as well, but that is a separate thread.
Regards,
Shodan
So, does it feel good, having Dio’s hand that far up your ass? Or is it mostly just uncomfortable?
I’m headed over the city park myself. There is room up front in my van. You need a lift?
What’s amusing is that you’re so fucking stupid, you have no idea about the deep hostility between Dio and myself.