Not really. A driver’s license isn’t perfect, but it’s the best reasonable means of verification available. Anything further is unreasonable.
ETA: Just had a thought, which I’ll go to the other thread for.
That was you, you dumb fucking prick. From the GD thread.
No, everybody is saying that. The difference is you are also paradoxically trying to say they should be accepted as legally reliable. You want it both ways. You want to be able to point at the unreliability of ID cards to show how easy it is for poor, hapless 40 year old men to get “entrapped” into fucking 10 year olds, but then you want to flip right back over and say that ID cards are “reasonable” checks on age. No they’re not, and you guys havbe spent a lot of energy arguing that they’re not.
You can be hostile to him elsewhere and still parroting the same retarded ideas in this context. From that response, though, I’m guessing he’s at least doing you the favor of a healthy prostate massage.
Let me break it down for you: two perfect strangers have a legal right to fuck. When they have performed the steps that would assure a reasonable person that the other person is of legal age to consent to that activity, they should not be held accountable if their partner turns out to be below the age of consent but deliberately set out to deceive them. The fact that you don’t like the idea of two random strangers fucking doesn’t mean that you should get to twist the law around to make it effectively illegal.
Hamlet hates me. I think this is the first time he’s ever defended me, and he’s not even really defending me, but just a legal point he incidentally agrees with. Me personally, you guys could throw off an overpass for all he cares.
Jesus FUCKING christ you are A GOD DAMNED RETARD.
YOU, YOU, YOU are the one saying they are unreliable. If they were unreliable, they wouldn’t mean anything, and no one would be able to use them. The fact that everyone does, including the government, means that they’re generally accurate and acceptable. The problem is that they are not 100% guaranteed. That does not mean they aren’t useful.
By your reasoning, we should also just say fuck it to speedometers, since they aren’t always accurate either. Man, if only you could get off the hook for a speeding ticket if you could demonstrate that your speedometer was off. OH WAIT, YOU CAN. WHICH IS ONE OF THE FIFTY BILLION POINTS YOU’VE BEEN CONVENIENTLY IGNORING BECAUSE IT DOESN’T FIT IN WITH YOUR RETARDED VIEW OF HOW THINGS WORK.
In Shot’s defense, from a distance it’s difficult to tell a grudge fisting from its more affectionate counterpart.
I didn’t say perfect, just faithful.
God your really are dumb. Like “Let’s put this poor … thing … in a helmet before he hurts himself” dumb. Really… Fucking … Dumb.
It is entirely possible, and actual reality in this case, for someone to think that sexual assault of a minor should be a strict liability crime, without agreeing with Dio’s arguments and, in fact, finding him to be every bit as obtuse as you do. If it helps, think of it like this… it is also entirely possible that you’re not a complete fucking douchebag, but are just wound up and not able to read for comprehension. See, the two things aren’t mutually exclusive.
And the rest of your post needs that helmet I mentioned.
Your one and only? Awww…that’s sweet!
Isn’t it against the rules to call someone a troll?
Not in the Pit.
Not in the Pit.
stupid alphabetical order.
Nah, your body might hit an innocent driver.
EVERYBODY is saying they’re unreliable. Read the fucking threads. They’re full to the brim with anecdotes about fake or fraudulently obtained IDs. If you personally think that checking a girl’s ID in a bar is reliable way to verify her age, then you’re the only one and you’re a gullible fucking chump to boot.
Reasonable. Not reliable. Not in the 100% guaranteed sense you seem to mean, anyway.
No, he’s always been like this. I’m right, you’re wrong, na na na I can’t hear you. Although of late he has adopted a new schtick, shamelessly stolen from long-banned poster Aldebaran, where his post is his cite. It’s really just an adaptation of I’m right, you’re wrong, na na na I can’t hear you, but it’s much more blatant.
OK, didn’t know what the rule was. Thanks.,
Troll. 
I could have went with dishonest lying prick, but troll seemed appropriate.
And I swear to fuck, its a poor reflection on humanity that a bullwanker like that can use the title “expert”. Even knowing that the only way he could have “expert” next to his name was by paying for it, its still aggravating as hell.
The only way it could be worse would be if he changed it to “valete”.