That was two days ago that you predicted that someone would come along to dismiss or excuse the allegations of horrific sexual violence made against Hamas.
Nobody dismissed the claims. Nobody excused the violence.
You are fundamentally wrong about the perspective of those who oppose IDF’s actions in this war.
I hope you can reflect on this incident, and how you don’t understand the objections to your positions. I hope you use the occasion to listen better to what folks are telling you.
I don’t know whether your opinion or mine is more cynical, but my guess was that it’s a trial balloon: if the reaction to what the vice-president says is super positive, then — having never said otherwise — the president can then advocate for that same position, amplifying the Administration’s position with one voice; but, if the reaction is super negative, then the president can — possibly while addressing that he understands why, and respects that, she’s taken that position — explain that he’d reached a different conclusion, which he’ll now passionately lay out a case for.
That totally makes sense.
I’m surprised it took this long for your arm to get sore from waving that bloody shirt all the time.
Whereas your genocide cheerleading will continue unabated, no doubt…
Good old predictable Smapti, never met a jackboot he wouldn’t lick.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you happy with what Banquet_Bear describes going on in Gaza currently?
You used to be a fucking loon about police, and I was impressed that in the last couple years you seemed to reconsider some of your stances and not just believe things blindly. But then this happened and you’re back to being a psychopath. I hope you can rediscover some humanity in yourself, because I don’t see it anymore.
Judging by his posts in Gaza threads, I’m sure he’s quite ecstatic. Orgasmic, even.
Ironically, the “waving the bloody shirt” rhetoric is perhaps more apt here than Smapti intended.
So, “waving the bloody shirt” became a Reconstruction-era propaganda slogan strategically applied by former Confederates and their supporters to discredit and minimize criticisms of indefensible atrocities. And, evidently, is still very useful for that purpose.
I’m happy that the war will likely be over sooner than later, I’m happy that he won’t be parroting Hamas propaganda constantly anymore, and I’m happy that he seems to have realized that the other Arab states don’t give a rat’s ass about the Palestinians and would rather use them as unwitting martyrs to foment Judenhass than actually protect them or open up their countries to them.
Yeah, that’s not what I asked if you were happy about. My assessment stands - fucking psychotic.
But he’s pretty bummed out that there will still be some Palestinians left drawing breath when the smoke clears.
The Palestinians aren’t going anywhere and Israel isn’t trying to make them. These propagandistic hyperbolics about “genocide” have poisoned the discourse and made it impossible to have a serious conversation about how the war is being prosecuted.
To the extent that any of the Hamas propaganda he spouts is actually happening, I’m not happy that people are suffering.
I guess it isn’t genocide if you plug your ears and say la la la enough. Bebe should go on trial. The US should quit giving them money. It took me a while to come to this stance, but there it is.
The term genocide seems to be as misunderstood as the term concentration camp. Not all concentration camps were death camps and not all genocidal actions are standing people up and killing them.
I agree. I was just hoping that as they had been victims of genocide themselves, that Israel would avoid victimizing someone else. Naive of me, but that’s hope for you.
Agreed.
Would you prefer that Russia or China were backing them instead? Because that’s what would happen if the US abandoned its greatest ally in the region.
I would rather that the US was not a party to genocide. Does it really matter how/where they get the weapons to commit indiscriminate slaughter of innocents?
Good thing that’s not happening, then.
The US has the power to moderate Israel. If it seeks alliances with Russia or China, those powers will encourage fascists like Netenyahu and make an actual genocide more likely. Moreover, it’s in America’s interests to prop up liberal democracies that respect civil rights and freedom of religion (which Israel is) against authoritarian regimes that do not (like all of its neighbors with the possible exception of Lebanon).
Well, there’s that claim, and then there’s what actual Israeli leaders are actually doing and saying.
There is just no rational way to defend wishful-thinking assertions that Israel’s not “trying to make” Palestinians “go anywhere”, or that Israeli policies “respect civil rights” of Palestinians. The reality is different.
Yes, by not giving them money, as Sylvanz suggested. Attempts by the US to use other forms of “moderating power” in recent decades have been pretty dismal failures. Israel has continued to take over more and more Palestinian territory, to kill more and more Palestinian civilians, and to embrace more and more openly expansionist rejection of a Palestinian state, and more and more repression of Palestinian rights in civil society.
Pretending that this is all just normal behavior for a well-intentioned “liberal democracy”, and that everything Israel’s doing to Palestinians is just a reasonable and ethical self-defense response to terrorist threats, simply isn’t working any more.