…I haven’t cited Al Jazeera here.
There is plenty wrong with Honest Reporting.
We both don’t know that. What the fuck are you talking about?
No, it’s the fact that the snippet you posted accused two journalists of allegedly serving with Hamas but provided zero evidence of this at all.
The fact that they state they are literally an advocacy group for one of the parties in this conflict just adds more context.
Verifiable evidence means that it can be verified independently. That we don’t have to just rely on the IDF’s word of honor. They haven’t provided anything remotely verifiable. So yes, we’re skeptical, as should you be.
Just to set the record straight, since slimy shit liars are everywhere in this thread, here’s what my stance on this issue actually was, outside the delusional mind of Andy:
I’m sure it won’t stop him from continuing to lie about my stance, because he just can’t help himself; no tactic is too low in his new cause.
Kudos for finding yet another way to ignore/excuse/justify rape! You are truly reaching Trumpian skill in deflecting and dissembling about rape.
I’m just applying your own standards. Anything the Israeli government says cannot be trusted. The source of the claim that this rape occurred is the Israeli government. Therefore, the claim that the rape occurred cannot be trusted.
Did I misread you here?
https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1922?u=iiandyiiii
You implied that it was proven there was no rape (unless I misread you). Are you agreeing or disagreeing with @Smapti, who says that Israel is correct to drop the prosecution of the rapists (and now seems to say that the rape didn’t happen)?
Why use my standards, when yours are more than enough to justify this rape because of your (uncited) claims about the laws of war?
The fact that lying scimbags like Andy don’t need any actually wrongdoing or evidence of wrongdoing to condemn (((Zionists))) has little to do with whether any particular claim of wrongdoing is true or not.
Obviously Israel isn’t perfect, and sometimes Israelis do bad things, so if you’re the sort of person who froths at the mouth at the sight of a (((Zionist))) you’ll still have broken clock situations. Doesn’t make you any less of a shit person.
Well, if I shouldn’t use your standards, then why on Earth are YOU using them?
Attacking the messenger is probably easier on your psyche than discussing the IDF’s failure to prosecute gang rape.
I sympathize. Justifying and excusing killing so many thousands of civilians, in Gaza and now Iran, must take a terrible toll on one’s mental health. And now gang rape!
Best wishes to you, Babs.
My standards are that gang rape should be prosecuted, even if the victim was a terrorist.
Your standards appear to differ.
But back to the laws of war - you claim they allow rape of prisoners in some circumstances. Can you provide a cite for that?
…just a reminder that, the incident under discussion here is literally the tip of the iceberg.
Israel is running a network of torture camps. Cite:
https://www.btselem.org/publications/202408_welcome_to_hell
https://www.btselem.org/publications/202601_living_hell
https://www.bmj.com/content/392/bmj.s171
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/08/israels-escalating-use-torture-against-palestinians-custody-preventable
Again: like with the journalists, the evidence is more than just overwhelming. It’s been documented for decades. Every single Palestinian has a story. Those stories have been backed up by whistleblowers. There is nothing to debate here.
And that anything the Israeli government says can’t be trusted, which, since the alleged victim has fled the country, means we have no way of knowing whether a rape ever occurred.
I said the laws of war don’t protect unlawful combatants.
Obviously; your meaning wasn’t in any way ambiguous. Andy used to be an intelligent and good faith poster, and it’s pretty gross that he would intentionally resort to flat out lying about your position like that for cheap rhetorical points. No tactic is too low.
From being raped?
From summary execution.
That wasn’t the question that was asked.
The question is based on a false premise.
I don’t think it’s possible to read that as anything other than a general question about whether the “Laws of War” allow for the rape of noncombatants.
Nice hole you’ve dug yourself into!
Smapti have you ever seen Casualties of War?
Did you get that Michael J. Fox isn’t the villain and Sean Penn and the rest of the platoon are not the heros of the movie?