What you hold means fuck all. If you were 1930s Herr Sampti you’d be justifying the Holocaust.
Bullshit. The Allies were the just party in that war, though I’m sure that if Banquet_Bear weren’t such a coward he’d find some way to tell us how the bombing of Dresden was just as bad as the Holocaust and it wasn’t worth it to save the concentration camp inmates, because he has the outlook of the Santabot on Futurama that believes the kid getting bullied for his lunch money is exactly as naughty for not paying it as the bully is.
I’m quite certain that 1930’s Herr Sampti would beg to differ.
I don’t know who that person is. Do they even exist? If you have to invent imaginary people to be mad at then it seems to me you’ve lost the plot.
Do you own a mirror?
…it wasn’t a question about “who’s cause is just.” Because liberation from occupation is a just cause, which is one of the things that Hamas are fighting for. But that doesn’t make the slaughter of innocents by Hamas morally justifiable.
Here’s the salient point: “the cause” is independent from the actions used to fight for that cause. Its what makes Saw Gerrera and story of the Rebellion so compelling. Gerrera is undeniably a terrorist. But his cause is just. Does that make his actions morally justifiable?
If you want to have a debate about the morality of the actions of the players, you’ve got to actually address the actions, not what either side claim they are fighting for.
I think the actions of Hamas were evil.
And I think the response from the Israeli government has been evil.
What happens when fascism goes unchecked:
Is beating prisoners with sticks and batons until blood pours out of their hands and feet morally justified?
…if you weren’t such a coward, you would just come out and state that you think the killing of 13,000 Palestinian children by the IDF is morally justifiable.
Morally justifiable? I fear that for Smapti it’s a moral imperative.
I just checked mine. It confirmed what I previously suspected - that I am not a 95-year-old German.
Hamas are the oppressors Gaza needs to be liberated from, dumbass.
Yes.
No, that seems excessive and I don’t see how it helps advance Israel’s cause.
I’ve already given you my answer to that several times.
[Government advocate ]: Smapti, is it correct that you ordered your troops to fire at the thickest part of the crowd?
Smapti : [righteous tone] That is so.
[Government advocate ]: One thousand five hundred and sixteen casualties with one thousand six hundred and fifty bullets.
Smapti : My intention was to inflict a lesson that would have an impact throughout all India.
[Indian barrister ]: Smapti, had you been able to take in the armored car, would you have opened fire with the machine gun?
Smapti : I think, probably, yes.
[Lord Hunter ]: Smapti, did you realize there were children, and women, in the crowd?
Smapti : I did.
[Government advocate ]: But that was irrelevant to the point you were making?
Smapti : That is correct!
[Government advocate ]: Could I ask you what provision you made for the wounded?
Smapti : I was ready to help any who applied.
[Government advocate ]: Smapti, how does a child shot with a 303 Lee-Enfield “apply” for help?
Here’s a button, , push it and Israel is guaranteed peace until the heat death of the Universe. One catch, pushing it also kills every child in Gaza. I wonder if Smapti would push that button.
Actually, I fear I already know…
@Banquet_Bear, are you expecting to ask this halfwit psycho the question that will make him say, “Oh dear, you’re right, maybe I shouldn’t support genocide”? Are you holding out hope that this poorly-programmed killbot will find an ounce of humanity, if you just phrase the facts the right way?
Or is he not the audience at all?
I’m legit confused.

Hamas are the oppressors Gaza needs to be liberated from, dumbass.
… Israel are the oppressors. Israel have total air, land and air supremacy. Israel have total control of the borders. Israel are the people with actual, functional torture camps and they’ve been in operation for years. Israel have been disappearing Palestinians both in Gaza and the West Bank.
The Rebellion are the Palestinians that are resisting the occupation. Hamas is Gerrera, who is a terrorist, and a bad guy.

I’ve already given you my answer to that several times.
So it’s the 40 then.
Darth Smapti does have a ring to it.

So it’s the 40 then.
Wrong. I recommend remedial reading comprehension classes at your local community college.

Wrong. I recommend remedial reading comprehension classes at your local community college.
- Children in Gaza have been killed and maimed by Israeli forces at an unprecedented rate. More than 13,800 Palestinian children were killed in Gaza, and 33 Israeli children were killed by armed groups in the 7 October attacks. At least 725 children have been injured since 7 October in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and 114 have been killed.
- The destruction of schools and hospitals in Gaza has become the norm, with most children unable to get even the most basic treatment or pain management due to the obliterated health system.
- Israeli children were abducted and held hostage in Gaza reportedly subjected to violence with lasting impact on their mental health and wellbeing and at least 460 Palestinian children have been arbitrarily detained since 7 October, with some telling Save the Children’s partners of starvation, abuse and inhumane treatment in detention.
https://www.savethechildren.net/news/over-2-gaza-s-child-population-killed-or-injured-six-months-war
This is what Smapti considers morally justifiable, that killing Palestinian children is actually their “liberation.”

Here’s a button,
, push it and Israel is guaranteed peace until the heat death of the Universe. One catch, pushing it also kills every child in Gaza. I wonder if Smapti would push that button.
Just to make sure I have this perfectly clear; you’re asking if I would sacrifice a few hundred thousand lives now in order to guarantee the safety of trillions of people for billions of years, and there’s no other catch?

The Rebellion are the Palestinians that are resisting the occupation. Hamas is Gerrera, who is a terrorist, and a bad guy.
BWAHAHAHAHA. That’s the funniest thing you’ve said all day. Yes, the religious fanatics who execute women for dress code violations are just like the guys fighting to preserve democracy against an evil wizard and his Space Nazis who regularly blow up entire planets just for fun. What a sick deranged individual you are.

This is what Smapti considers morally justifiable, that killing Palestinian children is actually their “liberation.”
2% dead means 98% alive who’ll be much better off once Hamas is no more. 1 for 50 is an acceptable ratio in my book.

Yes, the religious fanatics who execute women for dress code violations
…I said Palestinians.
Are you conflating all Palestinians with Hamas? Are you conflating all Palestinians with religious extremism?
How is this Israeli liberation operation working exactly? If the target is all Palestinians, then who is getting liberated exactly?