Sorry, typo that I didn’t notice combined with autocorrect selecting the wrong word - entrenching.
To expand on that, I can just let Norman Finklestein, one of the preeminent Pro Palestine activists, explain it himself:
What’s it been one day? Two?
I feel so terrible for the victims and, in this case, the attackers family as well. So thoughtful of him to wait for his daughter to graduate high school with a scholarship. Just in time for her to be deported (or at least detained) without having any chance to go to college or use her scholarship. In this country, anyway.
Heard something on the news tonight that Noem cancelled the family’s permission to be in the US and is pushing for “expedited” deportation of the entire family.
Where are they being deported? Kuwait? Egypt? (Where, perhaps, the children haven’t been since they were toddlers, or maybe not ever depending on how old they are). El Salvador?
Forget due process - Noem clearly feels they’re guilty by association and, having taken personal interest in the case, there’s not a chance in hell this will end well for them.
Why don’t you just run it through Google translate? It’s pretty decent these days. Chrome translates websites automatically for me, I don’t have to do anything.
Oops! Turns out the “aid massacre” story was utter bullshit:
You’d think they’d learn not to repeat unverified Hamas propaganda by now.
It’s almost like we should have suspected that the story that didn’t align with any of the established facts on the ground wasn’t true! Revolutionary, I know.
But I guess the BBC and other outlets that share this sort of misinformation would have to suffer some sort of consequence before they are actually incentivized to change their behavior.
…I watched the video.
Just to be crystal clear: that video wasn’t “reporting.” It was propaganda. It was released by the “Free Press”, an organisation that had its origin from Bari Weiss’s Substack.
Here is CNN’s reporting on the very same incident.
It cites multiple witnesses, in-depth examination of video and related audio, geo-locations.
There is zero evidence those bloodied bodies were caused by Hamas as claimed by the Free Press. There is considerable evidence that the massacre was perpetrated by the IDF.
And it isn’t as if there isn’t evidence of massacres committed daily by the IDF.
More at the link.
One very important thing to note from the latest update:
Whatever the numbers happen to be here: they are a significant undercount.
More from the update:
For people that want to know what is happening on the ground: the Flash Update provide as an accurate and up-to-date picture that we can get. Here is the entire archive.
It includes flash-updates on the appalling situation in the West Bank.
Gasp! It originates from a Jew’s substack?
Aside from her Jewish name, is there a reason we’re supposed to take issue with her? Because literally all you’ve shared as a problem is her name.
Here’s some actual information about The Free Press, beyond “it originates from a Jew’s substack”:
High factuality, leans left.
I wouldn’t recommend reading a corrupt middle man’s account of the job the person trying to replace them is doing. Seems like they might have a strong incentive to perpetuate the myth that only they can possibly provide aid (despite the hilariously incompetent job they’ve been doing at keeping their aid distribution free from Hamas interference in the past, assuming we’re gullible enough to believe they even tried).
Interesting headline, since when you read the body of the article they don’t actually have any videos that point to Israel doing the shooting:
I have no idea how CNN thinks they can get away with such dishonesty, but since I doubt BanquetBear posted that article as evidence of my claims, it’s clear that they can get away with it.
…what makes you think that?
You’ve never heard of Bari Weiss before? And who is “Ground News” and why should I trust them?
But you ask us to trust a video full of “facts” that were refuted in CNN’s detailed reporting?
All of the information in the flash updates are verifiable. If there is anything specific you want to dispute, go ahead. Do your best.
…they have evidence that point to Is real doing the shooting. its all outlined in the article.
They weren’t being dishonest.
I have heard of her. What problem am I supposed to have with her, beyond her name?
You mean when they said:
And then they quote witnesses, just like The Free Press?
The headline claims the video points to Israel doing the shooting. The body shows this is a lie.
…she popularised the “Intellectual Dark Web”, the cadre of “anti-woke” people of what she sees herself a member of that include Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro. She’s run hit-pieces on trans healthcare, is a supporter of the “men’s rights movement”. “Alt-right” would be an accurate descriptor of her IMHO.
Who filmed the witnesses in Gaza for the Free Press? Were they embedded with the IDF?
The videos aided with geolocation. The audio of the video indicated that it was IDF fire. That was backed up by witnesses.
The headline isn’t inaccurate. It isn’t a lie.
You sure as fuck cannot trust anything reported by Hamas, nor the IDF. That is why independent reporting is crucial. The current situation, though, is that it is simply impossible for the BBC, say, to send a team to or freely operate in Gaza. That is why they are resorting to analysing third-party videos. I do not think they try to conceal the fact they are doing geolocation and other analysis.
This, suppposedly, is because Israel authorities don’t allow foreign journalists into Gaza. I say supposedly, because I see this reported in media, but I haven’t checked if this is indeed official policy.
@Babale - can you tell us what you consider trustworthy news sources. I mean, all journalism contain bias (I know, being a former journo), but looking beyond the known bias, who do you trust? If Haaretz were to publish an article claiming that Israeli soldiers shot people at aid station, would you accept that? If Al-Jazeera were to publish that it was Hamas doing the shooting, in order to drum up hatred against Israel, would you accept that?
n.b. This is hypothetical. Please don’t answer with “Al-Jazeera would never do that,” because of course they wouldn’t. I just want to gauge what sources you accept.
Someone cited Bari Weiss? That’s funny. I wonder what Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan have to say about the incident?
Moderating:
This is not the pit. Don’t accuse other posters of antisemitism. It’s perfectly possibly to ask why you should trust a particular web site, or why another poster doesn’t trust a particular website, without casting aspersions of antisemitism.
Media bias/Fact Check website rates The Free Press ‘High’ for factual reporting (one below the top category) and ‘Right-Centre’ for bias, which seems more accurate to me. For comparison, that’s the same degree of bias as the Wall Street Journal, and better factual reporting(!)