I haven’t seen either Peter Pan: Return to Neverland or Cinderalla II: Dreams Come True. Can anyone who has seen them tell me if there was any logic in one being released straight to video and the other getting a theatrical release?
On a side note, I think it’s kinda wrong to make sequels to any of the ones that came out before Walt died.
On another side note, I do have a morbid curiosity for these sequels.
…CINDERELLA 2??! :eek: Good God! I just found out today that they’ve made a sequel to Peter Pan --I was walking by a movie theater and did quite a double-take when I saw the movie poster…
So, what Disney movie do we want to sequelize next?
Son of Snow White?
Bambi II - Thumper returns?
Pinocchio - Revenge of the Whale?
D’you think I could get them approved?
Pinocchio Jr: Chip Off the Old Block
I unfortunately have seen Cin 2. It was boring as hell. My daughters felt that if you can’t get the same voice actors to do the same characters, you shouldn’t even think about making a sequel.
I haven’t seen Peter Pan 2, but I did read a review that said it was better than the reviewer assumed it would be.
From what I have seen of PP2, it looks like it might have better production dollars behind it than C2. Maybe PP2 was sent to theaters to make some of the money back before going to home video.
Bambi 2-- Hunting Season
Robin Hood Goes to Jail
The White Cauldren
Coal Black
The Emperor’s New New Groove
The Four Caballeros
Bambi Strikes Back
The Lion Queen 
Sleeping Beauty: Coma!
Robin Hood in the Hood
Pinocchio de Bergerac
Even though most of them are awful; these sequels are making pretty good money for Disney.
Some of these sequels are essentially introductions to new animated television shows (Cinderalla II is essentially four episodes strung together to make a movie; Tarzan and Jane will likely be similar).
There is speculation that this is a preemptive attempt to maintain some control over the characters. Some of Disney’s older stuff is at a very real danger of entering the public domain (particularly Mickey Mouse). By making obvious sequels, Disney can prevent other non-Disney sequels with similar storylines. (I personally don’t put too much faith in this one, but it is interesting to think what will happen when Mickey Mouse shorts begin entering the public domain).
Lot’s of people point out how Walt Disney always said he wouldn’t do sequels. But this was only after he had attempted two sequels to his classic Three Little Pigs short and they failed miserably.
Most of these sequels are direct-to-video, so they are easy to avoid and really meant only for the kids.
You can see a list of Disney animated features here: http://www.mouseplanet.com/hometheater/dart.htm
Sequels on that list include:
The Rescuers Down Under
The Return of Jafar
Aladdin and the King of Thieves
Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas
Pocahontas II: Journey to a New World
The Lion King II: Simba’s Pride
Toy Story 2
The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea
An Extremely Goofy Movie
Lady and the Tramp II: Scamp’s Adventure
Cinderella II: Dreams Come True
Dumbo II
Hunchback of Notre Dame II
Return to Neverland
Tarzan and Jane
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The straight to video movies don’t have the same high standards as regular theatrical releases. The voice acting, animation, and script aren’t really any better then what you can find on animated television series. In fact if I’m not mistaken you’ll find some of the same animators of Disney television series working on their straight to video movies.
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I don’t think it is wrong. After all it isn’t like old Walt came up with these stories himself. What I have a problem with is Disney seemingly taking credit for these tales in their animated and motion picture features. Worse then that they sometimes radically alter the stories. Of course Cinderella and Snow White would probably be considered to dark for modern kids as presented by Grimm.
I’ve seen the Lion King and the Little Mermaid sequels. While they weren’t mind numbingly bad they really didn’t do anything for me. Kids seem to like them though.
Marc
If Cinderella and Snow White a la Brothers Grimm is too dark for modern kids, what the heck was up with Hunchback of Notre Dame? DH and I went with some friends who’d taken all 4 of their kids to see it. There were some scenes that had almost all the kids in the theatre crying because they were scared.
And even Snow White by Disney. I remember seeing that when I was a runt, about 6 or 7 years old, I think. My parents dropped me off at the theatre in downtown Albany, Georgia and left me to see the movie by myself. I got so frightened by the part where Snow White is running pell-mell through the forest with the eyes staring out at her, that I screamed and ran out of the theatre. Of course, I was too young and dumb to know that I could go back in, and didn’t have any way to get in touch with my parents. So I waited outside for them to come pick me back up.
Logic?- They make a lot of money for Disney. They don’t have put as much money into making the viedo and advertising when they go straight to video.
My two year just loves the new Cinderella. And I have to admit, I found it to be funny and quite charming. I especially loved the part about Drezella falling in love.
Peace.
Then for heaven’s sake, don’t tell them what really happens in the book!!!:eek:
Don’t even get started on how Disney has changed the fairy tales. I’ve met multiple hopelessly uninformed people who actually think that Disney’s The Little Mermaid is how the story actually goes.
Nu-uh. All that ‘happily ever after’ stuff? DIDN’T HAPPEN.
Her sisters came and told her to stab the prince to stay alive. She didn’t and so she died. Well, not exactly died, became some sort of ocean/air sprite/spirit thing. And you thought Snow White was scary?!
hi all
I think most of the disney sequels to be rather,well,not great
but considering the other cartoons out there,mainly cartoon
channell and a few tv stations own–Tleast its something
More Fantasia!!
rdky2000
rich in seattle
You left out my favorite bit: the little mermaid got her legs, but, she was warned by the sea witch, every step she took would feel like she was walking on knives.
Also, as I recall, her sisters sold their hair to the sea witch just to buy Our Heroine a chance to kill the prince and become a mermaid again (by washing her legs in his blood, as I recall), but she couldn’t kill him, and she became the foam of the sea. Or something like that.
Also strange - here in LA Cinderella II (video)seems to have a lot more in the way of advertising when compaired with Peter Pan II (theatrical).
Really, the only good recent Disney sequel was Toy Story 2 (and perhaps Fantasia 2000, though I haven’t seen it), and they realized this, putting it in theaters instead of the video box.
I was dreading the Tarzan sequel; I really don’t want to admit it exists. Disney did an amazing job with Tarzan, inventing the new “deep canvas” technology and what with Glen Keane’s work . . . and it was one of the times when their rewriting genuinely improved the story (Burroughs had a great idea, but he wasn’t that inventive a writer . . . still I was already a huge fan of Tarzan from the books alone).
But because it was so great, I knew they’d come out with a sequel sooner or later . . . ah hell.
But “Hunchback 2” just baffles me. As far as I can tell, the entire plot is that Quasimodo manages to seduce . . . Jennifer Love Hewitt.
however I will grant that although it makes no sense w/r/t the timeline of the movie, the Hercules TV series was not that bad.
And don’t forget that the sea witch cut out her tongue as payment for making her a human. Andersen was a distinctly screwed-up individual. 
Incidentally, Disney might have a reputation today for warm fuzziness – a reputation that’s not exactly unmerited – but early Disney was filled with all sorts of unpleasantness. Pinocchio in particular is chock-full o’ trauma…that whole boys-into-donkeys scene, for instance. (For that matter, the “Pink Elephants on Parade” bit from Dumbo used to freak me out, too.)
427 Dalmations.
You do realize, I hope, that the entire story didn’t happen? There are many valid complaints about Disney but I fail to see how changing the story is one of them.
Nobody bitches that Othello has been turned into a basketball movie (they may bitch that it wasn’t done well, but they don’t bitch about changing the story from the original form). That A Christmas Carol was turned into episodes of Highway to Heaven and Matlock. That very real murders are turned into highly fictional episodes of Law & Order.
Here is another advantage to changing the fairytales when you make them. Each one of those stories is in the public domain. Anybody can make a Little Mermaid movie, but nobody else can make Disney’s version of the story.
Eh, that’s by Pixar, it doesn’t count as a Disney sequel.
Pixar is the next Disney, folks. While Michael Eisner is milking Walt’s cow for more cash, John Lassetter and the folks at Pixar continue to create art.