Disney Thug: Still in Navy?

I got curious today and wondered whatever happened to the Disney thug that beat up a bunch of people, snuck backstage and stole a golfcart at Epcot in 2013

(http://archive.navytimes.com/article/20131014/NEWS06/310140018/Update-Navy-aviator-training-accused-attacking-3-Disney-World)

Apparently he was convicted and is presently on probation but it lists him as being on probation in Pensacola where there is a major Naval airfield. (http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveOffenders/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=43221060)

My question: Is the guy still in the Navy? Whatever happened to him?

Did you read your linked article?

I did, and saw nothing about this person being a Disney employee.

So why do you call him a “Disney thug”?

Do you want to see how close to libel you can get on this board?

Perhaps it’s clickbait spam.

Because it happened at Disney World perhaps?

ETA: Must learn to refresh stale tabs before posting. this is Ref LynnM …

Relax … IMO

The guy is a thug who performed his thuggism at a Disney property.

Nobody thinks the recently convicted “Boston Marathon bomber” worked for either the city of Boston nor the marathon. Nor are those entities libeled by labeling Tsarnaev as the “Boston Marathon bomber”. The Columbine school shooters didn’t work for the school either. Nor did the Sandy Hook guy. etc., ad infinitum et nauseaum.

I agree the phrasing is a bit awkward at first glance. But *only *because this case isn’t sufficiently infamous for you to have heard of it before.

:rolleyes: Sigh.

Tomorrow morning at work I will see if I can find him in the Navy Global Address List in Outlook…

As this happened in 2013, and he was commissioned in 2012, he would no longer be an Ensign, and he may be finished with initial pilot training.

Anyway, I will post tomorrow morning the results of my search.

AZ1(AW/SW) Tonyfop, USN (ret.)

If this is him, he looks like he cleaned up his act:

http://pilots-airmen.findthedata.com/l/1185920/Austin-Devan-Hill
http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A53/B9/Pilot-Austin-Devan-Hill-Pensacola-FL.html

Duckster: It says nothing of the kind. Though it sure *looks *like it does. There’s no dishonor in you being fooled.

The actual FAA database which anyone can search is right here: https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/

I have my FAA records partly blocked from public distribution, as do most established professional pilots. So while anyone armed with my actual name can verify my medical status & certifications, they can’t view my home address.

Conversely, Hill doesn’t have his records blocked. Per the FAA directly: His home address as of 2012 was in Pensacola. Any of you who are curious can get the street address from the link above; I’m not going to violate his privacy by posting it here. And at that time in 2012 he obtained a so-called third-class medical and student pilot’s license.

Which means exactly nothing. It is 100% irrelevant to his Navy flying, however that may have been going before or after his crime. It’s a paperwork formality he probably would have done to be able to fly the Flying Club light planes commonly kept at USAF / USN / USMC flying bases.

A military pilot who has sufficient military flying experience can readily qualify for the more advanced civilian licenses. Which folks typically do about the time their military flying career is winding down and they’re considering pursuing flying as a civilian career.

Hill has done no such thing yet. Which would be consistent either with him either having been thrown out of the Navy or just out of Naval Aviator training, OR with him still, 3 years later, being in the middle of his flying career and not yet eligible to separate and pursue his civilian options.

If / When Hill tries to renew that medical certificate he will need to disclose the convictions. Which are not necessarily disqualifying for renewal, but are darn close.

As a separate matter … that second link is scary. It’s a 100% canned (and 95% BS) article with his name plugged into a form at the bottom. It’s designed to make it appear as if the article is about him. But it’s 100% canned.

Which is not to say the assertion that he is known to the FAA is false; merely that the article is junk mail. Note that none of the info in that “article” actually says what license he has. It talks about what kinds of licenses the FAA offers.
Bottom line: nothing to see at those links, and the FAA data dates from a year *before *the Disneyworld incident.

Walt could not join up because he was too young, and served as an ambulance driver for the Red Cross, so if he had been thawed out in 2013 he could have stolen a golf cart, but beating people was likely beyond his physical abilities. The Disney brother who served in the USN was Roy, but they threw him out in 1919 for tuberculosis, not bad behavior, and he is said to have died in 1971. I’m beginning to think no Disneys were involved in this incident.

Walt had two children, Roy had one. Who probably had children. etc.

And we know the Disney Trust & the copyright for Mickey, etc. will live forever. So although I agree with you about Walt & Roy, there’s still plenty of room for Disney involvement in nefarious goings-on. :smiley:

And the closest factual answer I can come up with is this: There is still an active e-mail address for an Ensign with that name assigned to Training Wing 5. However, since he was commissioned in 2012 upon graduation from the academy, and since promotion from ENS to LTJG is automatic after 2 years of service, I would think that he may have been kicked out, and never got the chance to officially check out of the command, hence no one deleted his e-mail address. I will do some more digging.

AZ1(AW/SW) Tonyfop, USN (ret.)

Upon leaving the command, either due to transfer or separation, he would have been out-processed. If the ENS in question was not available to do that himself (say, because he was incarcerated), then someone in his command would have been designated to do the out-processing. If he were separated at that station, then he would have done the out-processing himself.

What an idiot. He was smart enough to get into the naval academy and to graduate from there but then derailed his entire career with one evening of public drunkenness.

Well, at leas that was just one night caused by being drunk.

Certainly better than the academy students that were running a car theft ring.

Or the female student that told other students she had her boyfriend, also a student, kill her EX boyfriend just to prove he loved her that much.

What, you are not qualified medically if you have a conviction??? In what medical world is a conviction relevant, unless it’s a “not guilty by reason of insanity” verdict? (which, yes, is not a conviction so probably means you are OK to fly)

In my misspent youth I got drunk and embarrassed myself in public a few times, but I don’t think I ever got remotely close to beating a woman with a pipe at a children’s amusement park.

I think we, and probably even he, are better off that he got himself kicked out before he started flying around in missile-laden aircraft.

No worries. I posted what I found and your commentary supports my gut reaction when I found the links. You found the same stink as well.

Yeah, but there’s all sorts of ways that he can mistakenly get crazy drunk…
by which I mean crazy and drunk at the same time…

it could be as simple as caffeine… Those pre-mixed spirits and cola cans ?
Well caffeine results in adrenaline … it can be too much

Or maybe the others there got him more drunk than he expected somehow…

Well anyway its all a bit unfair to make the charge results based…
The place should have security… the bar got him drunk… you know, the result is that he got drunk at a place where the bar let him get drunk, the security there let him out, and then the security let him into the strange area…

He was most likely doing the “Drink around the World” activity. They have a Food & Wine event at Epcot every October, which includes kiosks providing the food and drink of many countries. Locals like to head in and have a drink at each and every kiosk. Our own Really Not All That Bright appears to be an expert at it.