On the other other hand, young girls were primarily responsible for the obscene popularity of Titanic. Find a way to forgive them for it, I dare ya.
Well, acts like Limp Bizcit and others of that same sort of ilk are just as bad, if not worse then the manufactured pop acts, but it’s okay for Limp etc to be around because guys like them.
Yeah, that’s balance.:rolleyes:
While perhaps astro is being a bit too provocative - women in general and American women in particular - are a diverse, un-stereotype-able group. I suspect your musical tastes are as diverse as there are choices to have.
Further - American Idol is tasteless pop crap, it’s true.
However, the question - why is the fella with a smooth voice (so I’m told, the only AI I watch is when I am channel surfing between Buffy, Gilmore Girls and a baseball game in a hotel room with no Previous Channel button on the remote), but not the physical hunkness getting a bad vote?
Well, while I’d like to expound on the various qualities needed to be a pop idol and that voters (apparently predominantly women, according to the OP) are weighing those criteria heavily, it probably all comes down to the fact that this is a smarmy, self-involved, fake tension-producing show, the people that vote for the contestants do so for bases that have very limited correlation to anything having to do with musical taste, and the show rewards that type of behavior with more fake tension - is our hero about to be voted off? Get your vote in NOW!
In other words, voting on American Idol and musical taste are pretty much mutually exclusive considerations, near as I can tell.
WordMan
PS: Eva Luna - I am happily married and therefore not in the running, but I, too, appreciate fine musical taste. Unfortunately, I am not in a position to offer you a foot massage while listening to John Coltrane’s Ballads, or preparing you a fine meal (I’m thinking a light curry risotto with Scallops and grilled vegetables). But you sound worthy of the effort.
I’ve not watched a single of AI this year. Last year was a tragedy. One, they’re all a bunch of karaoke singers. Karaoke is a lot more fun to watch when I’m tipsy in a bar than while at home sober. Secondly, the best karaoke singer doesn’t even win. Last year Tamyra was booted off before Kelly Whatsherface and Sideshow Bob. What a joke.
Umm… perhaps I’m missing something. I enjoy Radiohead and Tori Amos (possibly my favorite artist)… I also enjoy Roy Orbison, Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra. In addition, I like Counting Crows, Carole King, Judy Garland, and Billy Holiday… and on Tuesday nights, I’m GLUED to Fox for at least an hour to enjoy the vocal stylings of Ruben, Clay, and Kim Locke.
I don’t think that one has much to do with the other.
So many people spend entirely too much effort turning their noses up at entertainment that they very well may have otherwise thoroughly enjoyed.
For the record, I’m 24 and female… and I loooooove Ruben. I want to see Kim Locke take it… because she’s consistently raised her game and become an absolute star, but I dig both Ruben and Clay very much.
Josh is a cutie, but the boy doesn’t belong there. He’s mediocre at best.
I was attempting a jokey reply. The thread asks the question “Do American women truly lack any semblance of musical good taste?” I think that’s a silly question, and in the interest of giving it a silly answer, I used my girlfriend as evidence.
**malkavia, ** no insult intended, of course. I just don’t watch much TV in general, and the few times I have tried to watch any kind of reality-type TV shows, it’s left me cringing. Combine that with my general lack of enthusiasm for 98% of current American pop music, and I really didn’t see the point in spending my precious leisure time watching American Idol. I’d much rather spend it doing something I know I will enjoy, like playing guitar or listening to a kind of music I do like (which ranges from Italian madrigals, to Beatles, to Georgian polyphony, to merengue, to more mainstream stuff like, say, Jack Johnson).
WordMan, your happily married state doesn’t mean you can’t feel free to mail me a nice batch of home-baked biscotti or something, does it? Food may be nearly as much fun as sex, but would your wife consider it cheating?
Didn’t American Idol originate in the UK?
Malkavia - sounds like you have diverse and interesting musical tastes - certainly not my place to judge. My point is, rather, that AI is much more about a contest - while some portion of that contest may have something to do with musical ability/taste, at best it is only an overlap, and it seems like much of what AI is about is trying to minimize that overlap (i.e., make it more about the “story” - the controversy, appearance, loyalty to favorites, whatever). Everyone has their right to like it, and some people who like it do have diverse and good musical tastes, but that doesn’t mean that AI is diverse or of good taste, per se.
Eva Luna - Oh yeah, I would be totally busted. No question.
[sub](astro sheepishly picks up two round objects off the ground)[/sub] Man… no more kidding around by me! You doper gals take your music seriously.
The one advantage to reality TV is that it leaves you with SUCH a feeling of superiority over the idiots who would PARTICIPATE in that crap.
Oh, as for astro’s question, I suspect that Ruben ended up in the bottom two because everybody assumed he’s a shoo-in for the winner and so was voting to keep others they like on the show longer.
Yup, they must be real idiots to participate in “American Idol.” Those fools, going through four whole months of hell just for a chance at making oodles of money. Gosh, who wants that?
Anyone who participated in this thread is a certified loser.
Uh, wait…
I listen to Jean Sibelius and Jerry Goldsmith, among many others. I have very good taste in music.
And I steadfastly avoid American Idol. More proof of my very good taste.