I am trying to locate my friend’s photo–it was online a few years ago but I’ve since lost touch with her and her site was taken down. I’ve found the old site on a Web archive site but haven’t found that specific photo yet. I’m going to keep searching though because now I’m wanting to see it again myself.
Hers isn’t the only photographic example of an orb seeming to interact with people. There are a lot of examples out there. I remember another one in which a woman asked the spirit of her deceased father to sit in his recliner so she could snap a photo-and an orb appeared in the chair in the photo.
No, no—as the OP stated, despite the fact that this is a message board dedicated to stamping out ignorance, this is a thread for people who believe in ghosts.
In pretty much all the accounts of ghostly encounters I’ve read or heard about, where solid animals are involved, the perceptions of the people have been backed up by those of the animals.
In other words, if the people feel hinky, so do the pets.
Your first point isn’t true at all. Ghosts often sneak up on people, frequently on those who don’t believe in ghosts.
Heck, if all animals had ghosts, we’ll be up to our waazoo in insect, crustation and ameobic (do eucaryotes count?) spirits. Probably in the region of 1.4x10^6 megaspooks per hectare.
All those, ah, creatures you mention left matter behind. According to my very limited knowledge of physics, it’s still here. Are we up to our waazoos in it?
Explain that, bub.
Orbs? Balls, more like. All I see is a bunch of polaroids with blurry lights in them. Lens flare, someone mucking around with torches and shutter speeds, someone mucking around with Photoshop…What’s that? You can’t find your own photo, you say? Why does that fail to surprise me?
By the way, did Hitler’s dog have a ghost? How about Nixon’s?
Cowgirl Jules
So you had sensory experience of something that was not there while semiconscious? Why do you think this was a ghost and not a dream. or hypnogogic hallucination?
Greywolf73
You say the sounds disappeared when the door was replaced? Hmm.
Wow, a hastily taken photograph comes out with a bright dot.
I’ve got to reread that article on orbs. I do find it fascinating that one of the criteria for establishing an authentic photo is reports of paranormal activity in the area. So rather than anything in the actual image, what people say about it determines if it’s real?
Amazon Floozy Goddess
Like most maxims printed on cofee mugs, posters, and bumper stickers, that one is a load of guano. A mind works through reasoning and questioning. Any mind that accepts whatever it is told as true and valid is quite broken.
IMHO believing in ghosts is not ignorant. However, refusing to apply logic or reasoning to our experiences is. So is holding as genuine such a thoroughly debunked subject as orbs.
I believe firmly in the existence of ivory. But before I buy an ivory figurine at a flea market or antique shop, I scrutinize it to be sure that this particular piece is real. At one show, I noticed a plastic replica. I liked the style, and assumed that since it was plastic it would only be a few bucks. The seller told me it was seventy five dollars. She explained that it was ivory. I explained that it wasn’t (frankly, it wasn’t even a good fascimile of ivory. I liked the style but you could spot the fact that the thing was plastic from fifteen feet)-the texture was wrong, the weight was wrong, the smell was wrong, and the figure bent slightly under pressure. Rather than admitting her error and negotiating a fair price, she maintained that the piece was ivory.
Did the original owner of that ivory have a ghost? Maybe it (the figurine) cast some juju at you that caused you to perceive real ivory as plastic.
Are you ok now? :dubious:
The definition of an open mind is not to accept whatever you are told. To have an open mind means to be unbiased to what is presented to you; to experience something before you make a move to judge it as one thing or another. That sounds pretty logical to me.
I had to personally euthenize a cat who had its back legs broken by a snow plow when we were snowed in (the state roads were closed, except for snowplows and emergency vehicles.)
Weeks later I was meditating, grieving about it, and I felt what seemed to be a rough cat tongue lick the side of my face.
I felt like I was told: “You did the right thing.”
Other cats, whom I loved dearly and miss terribly, have not stopped by, to my knowledge. Wish they would.
Maybe they’re reincarnated! (Which would explain **rabid_squirrels ** irrelevent protests).
There are four brainwave frequencies humans typically inhabit.
Beta: here we are fully awake and engaged in the physical.
Delta: Our Very Deep Sleep. Necessary, very necessary for our rest, for our physical functioning in the next day. No conscious awareness is known here.
Theta: This is where we go to do firewalks. This is where we go to establish pain control and control over our autonomic nervous system. Once for yogin only, but no more.
Alpha: Where we spend a significant part of our sleeping hours every night. While here in sleep we dream. But Alpha also slips in during consciousness; when we meditate, if we’re distracted, if our mind is in reverie and our body on automatic.
It seems that most “ghost” experiences happen during this state; either in dreams or while we are distracted. When we realize: OHMIGODI’VESEENAGHOST!! Then Beta kicks in again and the phenomenon is no longer able to make contact.
It’s like a radio. If you’re tuned into the right frequency, you’ll pick up a signal. If not, you can wave your antenna till Kingdom Come, and get no results.
Likely when you are experiencing contact, you are in an Alpha state.
Now beware: I’ve seen them here already: The Anti-Brigade. Against anything that doesn’t fit into their narrow world views, threatened by the possibility that something you say might be right. Frightened, actually, that their New World Order will be disturbed.
Ignore them, I warn you. What they lack in sense and logic they make up in numbers. They will start off sympathetic, phishing for new information, and when you grab the bait they will twist your words, shove new ones in your mouth, uses intimidation, suggestion and doubt to confuse you, gang up on you and waste your time defending your beliefs and experiences. Time you could have spent sharing, learning.
You’ll recognize them easily enough, though often not till their third or fourth post.
Ignore them. They say they are “looking for proof” when in actuality they are looking to put you down, call you names and demean you. They want to eliminate your experiences and put their beliefs in their place. They will call you names: “True believers,” woo-woos,” “creduloids,” and worse. They can’t stand the existence of a system of belief other than their own. The churches are too big, so they turn to you, to us.
Ignore them. They don’t want to learn, though they will pretend to. They don’t want to “help you,” they want to demean you, crush you, and then laugh about it among themselves. (Cites available on request).
They will gang up on you, attack, call you names, insult your intelligence (thy will call me paranoid, they have before), demean you, and come up with every reason for you to not believe in your experience including such ridiculous things as saying, :”well if you believe in PSI then you must also believe in the tooth fairy…”
They will do everything they can do to break you, and then when they are done they’ll move on to their next victim. No remorse. No apologies for misattribution of words, no acknowledgement when they are wrong which is often.
Ignore them.
Say: “Sorry, we’re not interested in what you have to say,” and they’ll say, ”Well, that shows you’re not open-minded.” Then when you talk of being open-minded they’ll tell you, “Careful, or your brains will fall out!” They are hypocrites. Their only interest is ganging up on you and making you “wrong.”
Ignore them.
In IMHO, you are under no obligation to answer ANY question or challenge. Let them rant and rage. Let them waste THEIR time. Don’t waste yours.
If you find too much harassment here, there’s a FREE site where harassment of any kind is forbidden.
