Cut costs by using illegal-immigrant labor.
Because they are having money taken out of their paycheck and deposited into the federal treasury does not make it ‘them being taxed’. The government does not impose an ipso facto tax on an illegal alien, though it is gaining one de facto, because the government (legally) does not allow that person to work to get money to pay the tax. Also, the person social security # under who the illegal alien is working is being credited with more fica than they ought because they are not earning the money. These folks who are working under a false id are also creating an unmitigated hell for the poor bastard who’s id they stole. I have two friends who discovered someone was using their ssn to work by finding far more money in their yearly fica statement then they earned.
Knock it off.
Attacking a poster’s ancestors is no less provocative than attacking the posters.
You knock it off, as well.
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EVERYONE needs to step back and consider that this is supposed to be a debate, not a Pit rant. If you need to attack your opponents on a personal level, then go open a BBQ PPit thread.
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You are mixing up two totally separate issues. I was discussing only the taxation issue. The government is receiving, in many cases, MORE tax revenue from someone working on a SS# not his/her own, because the worker will not be able to claim any refund for which he/she would be otherwise eligible based on income.
On the issue I didn’t discuss, but that you are mentioning now: people who use someone else’s SS# (or an entirely invented SS#) in order to be able to work, but for no other purpose, are actually subsidizing Social Security to the tune of around $7 billion a year.
End the war on drugs, the costs are about the same.
The distinction is you don’t own the United States. Somebody coming to America isn’t taking anything from you.
As an aside…
You know how all Republican and conservative pundits could not get enough of saying “oral sex” in their TV shows or newspaper columns during the Clinton administration?
Their self imposed Victorian muffle on sex was too much to bear and they almost enjoyed the chance they had to speak and reference anything that had to do with sex, as in oral sex, on national media.
It’s the same thing with the self-imposed drooling on uttering the term “illegal” with the conservatives. They already know they will give a pass to mass murderers they voted for President, and they will do again, but they huddle around the term “illegal” like they are proving to society that they are legitimate moral citizens.
The “illegal” in the “illegal aliens” common term refers to bureaucratic paperwork, not to an act a person has done, like robbery or murder, that would also classify them as illegal.
Just a point to ponder.
It varies by type of purchase and state (North Dakota’s official forms for Canadians) but your confident ignorance on the matter fails to surprise me.
Why? Big waves of immigrants are always ignorant and always cause crime and trouble – and all of them eventually get assimilated and enrich our country, and their kids raised here are, holding SES constant, no dumber than Old Americans’ kids. Clearly it’s not a genetic problem.
Ipso facto does not mean what you think it does, and neither does “being taxed.”