Do gangsters and thugs etc. commonly take target practice?

Mythbusters tested this also, with the same results. I am so old fashioned that I was trained with the sideways single hand method, which is not so bad.

In a home with kids you keep a loaded gun in a biometric gun safe. The other firearms should be in a safe.

There’s a scene in The Wire where some young “street soldiers” are mentored in shooting skills - I think they used Airsoft guns and/or paintballs - in an abandoned building. That show has a reputation as being meticulously researched and drawn from real life, so it seems plausible enough to have been a real scenario that they learned about.

It may be well researched, but even if so, it was lousy training.

Part of getting used to using guns is the recoil and the noise. Even with GOOD hearing protection you notice it, and the last time I was at a range and someone popped of a late round after the marshal declared safe it left an ear-ringing that was lingered for days.

(yes, he got chewed out and kicked off the range)

Airsoft and paintball might be good for situational awareness, but the weight, recoil, volume and everything else that actually applies to use, would be lousy. Now if they were doing it for fun and ‘claimed’ it as training, I’d believe.

…doctors, lawyers, the law in general, truck driving, hackers, helicopters, street racing, spies, scientists who are super smart, tv news shows, am radio stations, motorcycle gangs, how to find your way around LA, nanobots, EMP guns, or how many times you can get a 69 Charger airborne without totaling it.

Not really, that is explained by it being fiction.

I know my sense of humor has been described politely at times as ‘subtle’, and not so politely at other times as ‘lacking’, but I was making a joke.

I’d like to go with solost’s explanation, otherwise, the last part of No Time To Die is dumber than a FPS video game. :slight_smile:

I know I’ve mentioned this before, but when I took a CCL class, the instructors really drilled into us the importance of practice*. For example, if you’re going to keep the gun in your nightstand, you should regularly practice reaching over, grabbing it, making it ready (if it’s not already) and pointing it towards where an intruder would be and understanding where the bullet will go when you miss (kid’s room? neighbor’s house?). You don’t want to have someone break in and get yourself in even more trouble trying to grab your gun because you got tangled up in your sheets. And if goes further than that. They mentioned there’s cases where someone couldn’t get their gun out of their holster fast enough because, well, they’d never actually practiced and didn’t realize that their shirt/jacket/coat etc would be in the way.

One other thing they did was to take several different types of combination and key locks. IIRC, some were cable locks, some where gun safes. He brought one person up for each of the locks and gave them each the corresponding key or combination and told them that on the count of three, they each need to unlock their lock. When he got to ‘3’, him and the other teacher started banging on desks, flashing the classroom lights and generally making a lot of noise. It was probably a good 30 seconds before anyone got their lock opened.

Also, something really important, if you’re going to keep your gun locked by a key, don’t leave the key in your purse/coat by the front door while you’re sleeping or you likely won’t be able to get to it.

*Don’t practice until you can do it right, practice until you can’t do it wrong.

Which episode was it? I would love to see it.

I always hesitate to bring this up because I have no way to prove if it’s even true. However a friend of mine that was a shooting instructor once mentioned to me that the only time the sideways/gangster grip works is if you’re doing it while running. The reason being that the recoil will push your arm (if you’re right handed) to the left. If you’re running in that direction the recoil and your body moving will sort of cancel each other out and bring the gun back to about where it needs to be.

Thank you!

Re: self defense. I don’t know if this is taught.

Shooting a firearm in an enclosed space like a bedroom without hearing protection is going to be STUNNINGLY INCREDIBLY LOUD. Not like it is at the range.

Last fall I had to scare some bears away with a .357. I was outside, and I warned my Wife (inside) how loud it was going to be. My neighbor. 1/4 mile away inside his house heard it.

How transferable is shooting practice from one gun to another? I wonder just how familiar any gangster is with the weapons they actually use in crimes. Don’t smart gangsters usually ditch their guns after a hit? They may have a personal protection firearm they are used to, but that’s not the one they would use for premeditated murder.

Emphasis mine. Tell me you’re American without actually telling me you’re American :rofl:

My husband’s uncle used to have a house in the Catskills. The next door neighbors were Mafia. And the teenage boys liked to shoot in the backyard. I assume they shot cans or other cheap targets. But we often heard them shooting. (And could see a little through the loose hedge that separated the properties.)

Like uncle David, they lived in NYC, and just visited their country house on weekends and vacations.

But I’m going to say that some gangsters and thugs practice shooting.

My Canadian relatives have a farm, they had a .22 rifle, a couple of shotguns and I think three deer rifles. Farms have pests and they hunted for deer and ducks. They had no handguns, nor any use for one. The .22 was kept out and loaded for foxes in the henhouse, the rest locked up. They were pretty normal for rural Canada… or pretty much rural any free country that has game. Canada ranks 7th in guns per capita, but I will bet most of those are rural, not urban where most of the people live. Nor do I have enough guns to keep them in a safe.

Tell me you’re a city dude without actually telling me you’re a city dude.

Are you gonna try and turn this into another gun control debate?

Grew up in a Moshava which is a type of farming community actually. Never felt the need for a gun though.

We’re in FQ so definitely not. Just a bit of lighthearted humor.

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It depends. A marksman carefully aiming might find some slight differences in hitting the target between two copies of the same model of gun. Two similar models (full/large frame vs. compact), same caliber, same material (metal vs. polymer/resin/plastic) from different manufacturers should have similar firing/recoil characteristics after firing so not be very different at all.

On the other hand, watch this video on a news story from the other day. It’s of an inward-facing dashcam showing a driver shooting from his moving car on I-95. He’s just pointing his gun in the general direction of where he wants to shoot & fires, he’s not aiming, he’s not even looking where he’s shooting.
Judging by the news stories you see where there are 15, 20, or 30 shell casings on the ground, my guess is that the ganstas look a lot like him when shooting someone, doing a little spray & pray, it which case it doesn’t matter at all.