Do Grown People Really Still Believe In Astrology?

Wow, exactly 5 days older than me. Minus a couple of hours.

Happy birthday to us! And remember that scorpios like cholcolate.

Thank goodness that Astrology is a sham; I was born within hours of Courtney Love. I hope I’m nowhere as obnoxious.

I don’t believe in astrology, but I do read my horoscope online from time to time, if I’m bored. But there is one thing about astrology that I haven’t yet been able to figure out. Have you ever seen those books in the bookstore or library that have individual readings for each day of the year? For instance, I was born on May 15th, and there would be a full 2-3 pages devoted just to May 15th. The thing is, they are freakily accurate. I mean some of the crap is downright eerie. Like it said that I like to read the same book over and over again. Now I understand that probably a lot of people do that, but it didn’t say that when my (ex) boyfriend looked at his birthday. Come to think of it, it said that he was an angry and jealous person. Shoulda looked into that a bit more…

But if you happen to come across one og those books, have a look at it. Not saying that I believe in it, but it just seemed to be more accurate than just your basic horoscope.

Have one of those :smiley: I also had my horoscope done at http://www.astro.com and it was also very accurate.

So are you a stubborn, possessive Taurus?

Your sun sign is NOT the most important part of your chart. Winona Ryder, my dead Grandmama, and I all share a birthday, and we have very little in common. Gramma, for instance, would never shoplift.

My mother believes in astrology. The horror of it all.

One morning, I was in the car with my parents, and we were listening to an Indian radio station, who had a ‘scientifically proven’ astrologer on, who apparantly had won awards for her accuracy.

Anyway, loads of gullible saps came on to ask her serious questions like “should I marry this man?”, to which I thought, well, if you’re having to ask someone else’s opinion, then you probably shouldn’t. Funnily enough, that’s what the astrologer said. Another couple asked about a business venture they were about to undertake. Astrologer asked about the accounts, couple said they looked healthy. Guess what astrologer said? “Well, you should buy the business then”. Well, duh. :rolleyes:

However, the kicker came when I told my mother that said astrologer was nothing more than a hack, and was blatantly using cold reading on these people. Mother’s response: “no she’s not. She’s real. Shut up, you’re just being silly.”

Aaaaarrrrrrgh!!!

And do not get me started on those people who say, in all seriousness: “You’re an astronomer? Wow. What’s my star sign?” There are not enough rolleyes in the world for that.

Can’t let this thread slip by without this:

And how bout the Chinese Astrology?
I was born in the year of the dog.
Everyone in 1958 is exactly alike!
:smiley:

Please, people…

The day of birth isn’t the only deciding factor. The time and, just as importantly, the location of one’s birth are also significant. Also, astrological factors do not determine or predict all facets of one’s life. One’s palm print, foot print, birthmarks, physiognomy, and phrenology are also important, as is the numerology of one’s name.

Taking all of the above into account, it is possible to create, for each person as a unique individual, voluminous profiles of very detailed total bullshit.

=) great

and i am a diabetic chocoholic=( and the mannitol choccos never taste right, and they frequently put some unholy food grade wax in place of perfectly good cocobutter and it becomes the chocolate of the devil=\

Well, they do–the same birthday!

Lame attempts at humor aside, I enjoy reading astrology books, know some of the terminology, but don’t put much credence in it. Among other things, I have never been followed around by a train of enthusiastic admirers, as the books always say I should be! Perhaps I need to switch deodorants?

:smiley:

OK, godammit, who’s got my Anne Klein cocktail dress, you or Winona? I knew I shouldn’t have had you two over for dinner . . .

I look much better in that dress than she does. It matches my eyes.

Try looking daggers at them.

My birthday is March 29th. Next time you see one of those books, look up the entry for that day and see how closely you think it matches you.

Og smash astrology!

(bolding mine)

I just tried that. It was accurate—eerily so—when describing something that is going on with me right now. (“Withdrawl.” I am trying to escape from the world. Well, yeah! Especially in the last few days.)

With that said, no, I don’t take astrology seriously. I check it now and then for fun, but it’s wrong just as often as it’s right.

However, I know some very bring people who believe in it. I don’t curl my nose at them too much. After all, I am a religious person, and religion seems as “crackpot” to those who don’t share the belief as astrology seems to me. So I don’t feel all that high and mighty. As long as they don’t do the “You are so Scorpio!” thing. That’s annoying. But if they believe yet don’t yammer away about it to me? Fine. No problem.

I do. It works remarkably well. Or I make up some crap, which also seems to work.

This is by no means an attempt to defend astrology, which makes almost as much sense to me as reading chicken entrails or tea leaves.

However, a practicing astrologer is not simply playing “Sun Sign Astrology” – “you’re a Pisces, so you must be…”

What will be done, FWIW, is the placement of the “planets” (the eight other astronomical planets of the solar system, plus sun and moon) in one’s chart relative to each other and to the circumstances of the heavens at the moment of one’s birth. I.e., two people born on the same day six hours apart will have effectively the same placement, the Moon being the only celestial body that might have moved in the heavens enough to say so during those six hours – but will have different ascendants – i.e., which constellation was rising at the moment of one’s birth – and therefore the positioning of the other bodies will be in different “houses” in one’s horoscope. The significance of Mercury in the fifth house and in the eighth house, for example, would be quite different.

Not that this tends to validate astrology, of course, but it’s worth taking into account that actual genethliacal astrology does recognize the differences in people and attempts to explain it by a rather complex system of “houses” and interrelationships – not merely the idiocy of sun sign astrology that classifies everyone into twelve groups based on month of birth.

They’re all wet, of course, but it’s worth noting that they’re all wet on something significantly different from and more complex than the usual conception of “You’re a Taurus, so…” that the average intelligent person conceives of as “believing in astrology.”

(I actually had my chart cast in my college days – and while my sun sign is near-dead-center Scorpio, about half the other significant elements of my chart were in Libra, which strongly influenced the person I became according to the astrologer who completed my chart.)

A while back I had a fairly flaky co-worker who believed unquestioningly in astrology. Just for the hell of it, I asked her to guess my star sign based on my personality. She did a lot of fishing around (“hmm, you’re sort of like a Taurus, but maybe a little like a Pices…”), but I absolutely refused to give any kind of response until she made an actual guess.

As Og is my witness, it took her 13 tries.

Polycarp, I see what you’re saying but, unless these planets are exerting some mythical influence, (which I’d say is pretty damned hard for what are essentially balls of rock a few light years away in the case of planets, and balls of hot gas a few hundreds of light years away in the case of stars), then the midwife assisting your mother in giving birth to you had more influence on you than the ‘stars’.

Agreed. However, I always prefer to disagree with what the other guy is actually saying rather than a straw man set up in the general direction of his thinking. If I were arguing sacramental theology with Tomndebb, for example, I’d disagree with the doctrine of transubstantiation as taught by the Catholic Church, not with some misrepresentation of it that says, in essence, “The priest magically transforms the elements into body and blood, so how come it still looks and tastes like bread and wine?” I give the same respect to genethliacal astrology – I don’t give it any credence, but what I argue against is what they’re actually claiming, not Linda Goodman’s Sun Signs.